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Nocapszy

no clinkz 'til brooklyn
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ENTP
Types don't "have" anything.

I'm tired of hearing "ENTPs have Fe and Ti" or "ISTJ has Fi"

It doesn't work that way you guys.
It's not about posession.
 

Moiety

New member
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ISFJ
Is this about semantics?

Because every type uses every function. Depending on the subject matter, one's proficiency (2 strongest functions) might matter more or less.
 

Nocapszy

no clinkz 'til brooklyn
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Is this about semantics?
Yes and no.
I'm not being one of those grammar bitches.

It's irritating because it displays (and later causes) poor understanding.
If we speak this way, it gives the impression that a type is a mindset, or... a decision or something like that.

It's not.

Because every type uses every function.
This is the correct reference.
They don't possess, or own them.
 

Valiant

Courage is immortality
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ENTJ
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8w7
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
I have Fe, you bastard! :cry::steam::blush::wubbie:
 

Amargith

Hotel California
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ENFP
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4dw
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sx/so
Awww, can I play with it? :wubbie:
 

Moiety

New member
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Yes and no.
I'm being one of those grammar bitches.

It's irritating because it displays (and later causes) poor understanding.
If we speak this way, it gives the impression that a type is a mindset, or... a decision or something like that.

It's not.


This is the correct reference.
They don't possess, or own them.

I asked if it was about semantics because I wanted to know if you were saying "ENTPs don't use Fe or Ti".
 

Athenian200

Protocol Droid
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INFJ
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4w5
Types don't "have" anything.

I'm tired of hearing "ENTPs have Fe and Ti" or "ISTJ has Fi"

It doesn't work that way you guys.
It's not about posession.

That's right. Technically, if anyone has the functions, it would be CAPT. CAPT has them, they just let us use them. People who are typed as XXXX use functions Xx, Yy, and Zz.
 

Jeffster

veteran attention whore
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ESFP
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7w6
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sx
Nocap obviously has more J than he's letting on.
 

Udog

Seriously Delirious
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INfp
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9w1
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sp/sx
I'm just going to refer to the functions as magic spells.

I now cast Fi.
* no effect *
Hmm, grammar must be strong against Fi. Damn.
 

527468

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I use the other functions, but I definitely have Ni.

I'm just going to refer to the functions as magic spells.

I now cast Fi.
* no effect *
Hmm, grammar must be strong against Fi. Damn.

Fi is good against Ne
 

Nocapszy

no clinkz 'til brooklyn
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Know what?
Nevermind.

You guys can just wallow in your insipid fruitlessness for all I care.

Go ahead and close the thread.
 

Giggly

No moss growing on me
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2
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sx/so
Nocapszy, I'm interested. Could you please explain more?
 

entropie

Permabanned
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Types don't "have" anything.

I'm tired of hearing "ENTPs have Fe and Ti" or "ISTJ has Fi"

It doesn't work that way you guys.
It's not about posession.

I did get you nocap. But bear in mind, its not our problem in the end :)
 

Nocapszy

no clinkz 'til brooklyn
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Sorry guys, Jeffster and the peanut gallery ruined it for everyone.
 

Udog

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9w1
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Nocapszy, I think you are on to something and you should stick to your guns. However, you made some pretty strong claims and then failed to back them up, so it was hard to take your post seriously.

Yes and no.
I'm not being one of those grammar bitches.

It's irritating because it displays (and later causes) poor understanding.
If we speak this way, it gives the impression that a type is a mindset, or... a decision or something like that.

It's not.

You may be onto something here, but the way you worded it amounted to little more than "everyone who uses this particular grammar doesn't understand the theory". You didn't bother to see if there is an actual reason we chose the words we do.

I'd say that perhaps we are just using the theory in a different way. Since I'm a computer programmer by trade, I tend to encapsulize concepts and then deal with the aggregate. It's how my mind works.

So I like to think of Fi, Ti, whatever as an whole object that I can then apply to situations. Using 'has Ti or has Fe' becomes a natural extension of this. The problem, though, is that this is a real academic Ivory Tower approach, and neglects that the functions are used. It's taking real life application out of the picture in a very subtle way. This is where I can agree with you, and will be more mindful of how I use the terms in the future.

Sorry guys, Jeffster and the peanut gallery ruined it for everyone.

/serious.

You know, I think "The Peanut Gallery" would be a pretty cool user name.
 
G

garbage

Guest
Why not just treat it as shorthand for, say, "According to the model, ISTJ prefers Ti" or "According to the model, ENTP prefers Fe (over Fi)"?

Hell, despite my signature, I don't much believe that there should be a strict separation of, say, Ne and Ni, but I just interpret and speak of "Ne" in rough terms as "Intuition applied externally."
 
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