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    Default "Typology helps me understand people better"--or does it?

    I think one of my biggest problems with the typology community is that people think typology is so revelatory that they think when they've got you typed then the way to better understand you is to understand your type more, THEREFORE, they associate you with traits, characteristics, and ways, that aren't even necessarily anything like you, especially since they could be mistyping you in reality, but even IF they aren't mistyping you, those ways don't necessarily fit you. One misunderstanding grows into many huge misunderstandings about the person.

    Does typology help you understand others, or does it help you more confidently MISunderstand others?

    When people said don't judge a book by its cover they should've added don't judge individuals by a book.

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    Well, yes. There's a knucklehead who follows me around the forum like a case of genital herpes and I can tell through his comments he thinks he knows me. I assure you, he does not.
    Who, if not you. When, if not now.


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    Me every time someone types me as a 4. It's a cursed mistype labelling that follows me everywhere.

    What really gets me is there are people who have never even had a conversation with me that INSISTENTLY type me as this.

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    It depends on how seriously you take typology tbh. Personally, I thought it helped me understand people better because it gave me a baseline of interest to look into people and how they worked mechanically. Especially for people I really didn't understand and initially judged, typology sort of gave me opportunity to upheaval my own biases. Nonetheless, there's quite a lot of people who DONT have that experience with typology and can use it to either fuel their own biases or grossly misunderstand others by aligning them with stereotypes or scapegoating a type.
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    A few thoughts:

    Systems -- especially those involving people -- are never black and white but gray, complex, and need to remain flexible to accommodate reasonable variance. You are basically categorizing people by blending out the details and looking for broad patterns of similarity.

    No system is perfect.

    Every system is simply one framework, among a multitude of frameworks, so its usefulness depends on whether you are interested in the framework the system is actually operating under.

    Most of the abuse likely comes from people trying to use conceptual limited systems to pre-define the specifics of particular individuals. It doesn't work that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalDoubt View Post
    It depends on how seriously you take typology tbh. Personally, I thought it helped me understand people better because it gave me a baseline of interest to look into people and how they worked mechanically. Especially for people I really didn't understand and initially judged, typology sort of gave me opportunity to upheaval my own biases. Nonetheless, there's quite a lot of people who DONT have that experience with typology and can use it to either fuel their own biases or grossly misunderstand others by aligning them with stereotypes or scapegoating a type.
    Well said. ^ Wonderful post.
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    Ive stopped seeing typology as useful since the first year i got into it. I find it interesting to have some of your behaviors be explained with certain mechanisms that are implemented in each system but other than that it doesnt serve any value. If you dont see it as an interest and the system you are using is mostly a cause of misunderstandings than understandings then i think you should give up on that system.

    And as ive told you in DMs, i think enneagram is a system that you should not take too seriously especially if you are dealing with issues that are far from what a neurotypical person does. You being similar to a 4 externally but having an entirely different motivation suggests that maybe the system itself is toxic for you. Again as RadicalDoubt said it depends on whats your stance with typology in general.
    Personally i just got involved with it again to finally settle with a type as a more self aware person so i can feel that the time i spent on the interest wasnt in vain. Other than that, i only see it as a form of entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCanSir View Post
    Ive stopped seeing typology as useful since the first year i got into it. I find it interesting to have some of your behaviors be explained with certain mechanisms that are implemented in each system but other than that it doesnt serve any value. If you dont see it as an interest and the system you are using is mostly a cause of misunderstandings than understandings then i think you should give up on that system.

    And as ive told you in DMs, i think enneagram is a system that you should not take too seriously especially if you are dealing with issues that are far from what a neurotypical person does. You being similar to a 4 externally but having an entirely different motivation suggests that maybe the system itself is toxic for you. Again as RadicalDoubt said it depends on whats your stance with typology in general.
    Personally i just got involved with it again to finally settle with a type as a more self aware person so i can feel that the time i spent on the interest wasnt in vain. Other than that, i only see it as a form of entertainment.
    Same, and I don't take it seriously, but I can't help but to feel bothered by people 'understanding' me through the lense of E4. IDK, maybe I just should just count any sort of relationship with those people as a lost cause bc they won't get me.

    IDK, I don't even expect to have a relationship with everyone who has typed me as such--many of them are already way gone out of my life. I guess it just bothers me to be associated with something that conflicts so hardcore with my values and the person I truly am. I wouldn't even say no part whatsoever is like me, it'd be 3rd in tritype imo, but only barely and in shallow ways because none of the heart types are a good fit at all. People use something way off of who I am to understand me and it just results in one big misunderstanding about who I am. If I'm going to interact here I don't want to be forced to deal with that giant misunderstanding all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerix View Post
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    Me every time someone types me as a 4. It's a cursed mistype labelling that follows me everywhere.

    What really gets me is there are people who have never even had a conversation with me that INSISTENTLY type me as this.
    I think a lot of people surface level type anyone who is highly revealing of their troubles in their lives to be a 4.

    I say this because I am also commonly typed as 4 and I am a 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerix View Post
    Same, and I don't take it seriously, but I can't help but to feel bothered by people 'understanding' me through the lense of E4. IDK, maybe I just should just count any sort of relationship with those people as a lost cause bc they won't get me.

    IDK, I don't even expect to have a relationship with everyone who has typed me as such--many of them are already way gone out of my life. I guess it just bothers me to be associated with something that conflicts so hardcore with my values and the person I truly am. I wouldn't even say no part whatsoever is like me, it'd be 3rd in tritype imo, but only barely and in shallow ways because none of the heart types are a good fit at all. People use something way off of who I am to understand me and it just results in one big misunderstanding about who I am.
    4s do have that great need to be understood because they feel special and want to be justified for feeling that way, but... you cant type someone as a 4 when they really have dealt with misunderstandings their whole life to the point they were traumatized by that. If you want to identify as something based on what your behavior looks like, sure you can go ahead and type as 4 sx or 8 sx but that wont give you any sort of clarity. I think given how being misunderstood by others can trigger you, you should probably give up on enneagram and stick with some other system. When entertainment stops being fun its no longer entertainment.

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