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1. Originally Posted by Jack Flak
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INTJs spend 1/3 or their time gathering data via intuition, and 2/3 making decisions with thinking.
So you think the lead function in INTJs is Te and second is Ni?

(Please humor me with the e and the i thing, I'm still a novice.)

2. Originally Posted by INTJMom
So you think the lead function in INTJs is Te and second is Ni?

(Please humor me with the e and the i thing, I'm still a novice.)
No. The Prmary function of INTJs is Thinking, and the Support function is Intuition.

3. Originally Posted by Jack Flak
No. The Prmary function of INTJs is Thinking, and the Support function is Intuition.
But thinking is only primary because that is what you see first... because it's extraverted.
I don't see how a stander-by would be able to tell which I am doing most of - thinking or intuiting.

4. Originally Posted by INTJMom
But thinking is only primary because that is what you see first... because it's extraverted.
I don't see how a stander-by would be able to tell which I am doing most of - thinking or intuiting.
You underestimate my intuition.

Think of it this way. Your primary function is your favorite hobby, and your support function is the equipment you need to participate. Skiing and skis. The other two functions, the unlisted reserve functions, are the cash in your pocket, just in case.

5. Too much thinking.

6. Originally Posted by INTJMom
Too much thinking.
You're an F then.

7. A good model of the conscious thinking patterns Jack. I would point out, however, that the current function use model isn't without it's benefits though. The problem is that many who pick it up fail to recognise how it's put together. That whole function order argument needs revising and people need to spot that they're on about dynamic type and not a static thought patterns.

8. Originally Posted by INTJMom
So you think the lead function in INTJs is Te and second is Ni?

(Please humor me with the e and the i thing, I'm still a novice.)
He's right you know. 1/3 of the time is spent sucking up information and the rest is devoted to taking a long walk around it. Hence why if you challenge an INTJs position you most often get the result of the challenge a couple of days or perhaps a week or so later once they've had chance to walk around it in their head and poke it with sharpened sticks

9. Originally Posted by Xander
A good model of the conscious thinking patterns Jack. I would point out, however, that the current function use model isn't without it's benefits though. The problem is that many who pick it up fail to recognise how it's put together. That whole function order argument needs revising and people need to spot that they're on about dynamic type and not a static thought patterns.
Thanks.

I agree. I've said myself that the "eight function" system can describe people in a way, but the problems are

1. Most people apply a rigid order based only on theory,
2. It's not the only way to describe thought processes,
3. Descriptions and interpretations of function use are primarily based on observation of individuals who supposedly possess a certain familiarity with whatever function,
4. People are unaware of the above and more.

10. Nah.

It's more like getting to the tallest skiing hill having second thoughts, and then intuition is the bastard that pushes you down before you've actually decided whether you'll do it or not.

So yes, thinking, those two weeks in the hospital and six in bed, physically take longer, but that one-and-a-half minutes on the ski slope was still its own eternity.

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