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    Default Direct vs Indirect communication styles in mbti?

    Such as:
    "Pls take out the trash" instead of
    "Hmm the trash is full"

    Is an an introverted thinker or feeler more likely to have a direct communication style or have an indirect communication style?

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    J vs P.

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    Saying "hmm the trash is full" because you want someone to take out the trash sounds really petty.

    I wonder if I do this sort of thing. :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    J vs P.
    This actually might be correct. Je is directive whereas Pe is observant.

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    When I looked at the thread title I thought it would be an S versus N thing, because Sensing is direct and Intuition is more about implications/inferrences, though I'm not sure if that division applies to the example stated. It may be related to T versus F, because Feelers are typically said to have a tendency to dance around an issue in order to not upset harmony or something like that, whereas Thinking (especially Te) is more blunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    This actually might be correct.
    It's incorrect. There are 8 Directing types and 8 Informing types. ESFJ and ISFJ are Informing types.
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    I don't really think this is type related. Its more communication style, and lots of people of various types do one or the other, or both depending on circumstance.

    I know I would tell people to take out the trash, because it needs to be done. Its how you live in a not filthy environment, and makes functionality better. I don't want people coming over and seeing this filth. This isn't because I am a J, but more so because I am a 1. I am a messy person, and a very strict and clean person at the same time. It just depends on what I am doing, and where I am doing it. I clean up after myself, I expect others to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebris View Post
    I don't really think this is type related. Its more communication style, and lots of people of various types do one or the other, or both depending on circumstance.

    I know I would tell people to take out the trash, because it needs to be done. Its how you live in a not filthy environment, and makes functionality better. I don't want people coming over and seeing this filth. This isn't because I am a J, but more so because I am a 1. I am a messy person, and a very strict and clean person at the same time. It just depends on what I am doing, and where I am doing it. I clean up after myself, I expect others to do the same.
    Well, the topic isn't really about taking out trash and cleanliness -- it's about the manner in which one communicates that the trash needs to be taken out. But Re your first paragraph, sure, if you end up being the one who takes it out when you see it's full, then no communication needs to happen. And sure, there will be individual variance and some individuals of a given type may have learned or will choose to communicate in a mode differing from their natural preference - maybe particularly if they've learned it's more effective on the job or if they've learned their friend or partner appreciates a different mode better and they value this person. Or, maybe a particular scenario just really brings out a different style for whatever reason.

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    @OP - Re types and direct/indirect, yes, there are overall trends -- which is really what 'type' is about - it's about general tendencies in people - tendencies that can be grouped by type. The links @Jaguar provided are the interaction/communication styles of the 16 types. And sure, it's part of the theory, just as every other method of typing is mere theory. Will it apply to every single person on the planet/ everyone of a given type? Highly, highly doubtful. But it's about trends.

    So generally speaking, there are types who could be viewed as beating around the bush with anything they're trying to say, who are very indirect because they don't want to come across as 'demanding' or as 'ordering' anyone around, thus will couch their language with fluff, pleasantries, suggestions, providing information and then seeing if the other party decides to do anything with the information, giving hints, can be viewed as being passive and not stating directly what they actually want.... and then there are types that in general will just get right to the point, will ask succinctly if such and such person will please take out the trash, will say such and such is the problem (vs such and such might be the problem), will be viewed as more 'blunt', and so on. Of course there are a few in-between styles. Pure directing per theory is ENTJ, ESTJ, ESTP, ENFJ. Pure Informing (polar opposite communication preference) is INFP, ISFJ, INTP, ISFP. The other eight are kind of middling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    @Jaguar provided are the interaction/communication styles of the 16 types. And sure, it's part of the theory, just as every other method of typing is mere theory. Will it apply to every single person on the planet/ everyone of a given type? Highly, highly doubtful. But it's about trends.
    I use the word "pattern," and you use the word "trends" but we mean the same thing. The pattern or trend can include something or be missing something one might not expect to find, but the big picture is still there. There are a few obvious Directing types like myself, Discobiscuit, Halla74, and someone you might not know - an ESTP named Treebob who posts here occasionally but moderates another online forum. Directing communication is going to be seen pretty easily with ENTJs and ESTPs. There was a woman who claimed to be ESTP and I kept scratching my head saying, "There is no way this chick is ESTP." Long story short, after years of telling the forum she was ESTP, out of the blue she admitted it was all untrue and she was actually an NF. An eyebrow-raising event for certain but with an end result I actually believed.

    Then you have Informing communication and it can be so strong you get someone like my brother who was shouting, "You're breaking the rules!" at a guy who was allowing his dog to crap on our lawn. As if informing him of that would even matter or solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I use the word "pattern," and you use the word "trends" but we mean the same thing. The pattern or trend can include something or be missing something one might not expect to find, but the big picture is still there. There are a few obvious Directing types like myself, Discobiscuit, Halla74, and someone you might not know - an ESTP named Treebob who posts here occasionally but moderates another online forum. Directing communication is going to be seen pretty easily with ENTJs and ESTPs. There was a woman who claimed to be ESTP and I kept scratching my head saying, "There is no way this chick is ESTP." Long story short, after years of telling the forum she was ESTP, out of the blue she admitted it was all untrue and she was actually an NF. An eyebrow-raising event for certain but with an end result I actually believed.

    Then you have Informing communication and it can be so strong you get someone like my brother who was shouting, "You're breaking the rules!" at a guy who was allowing his dog to crap on our lawn. As if informing him of that would even matter or solve the problem.

    Yep. Agree we're talking about the same thing.

    And it's hilarious to me if you're not viewed as directive -- you're about as blunt and no-nonsense in communication as they come on this forum. I'm not familiar with Treebob,no, but there's most definitely a difference between your/discobiscuit/halla's communication and any informing type of communication.
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