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    Default NFPs, how do you use extraverted intuition?

    For me, I think a lot of it is as an aid to speculative thinking; I tend to put it to what you might call an intellectual use (as obnoxious as that sounds) . Also, attempting to make people laugh and understand other people's points of view. I'm curious about how other types might use it, how the use of Fi and might have a different effect.

    What was an example of an occasion or instance in which you were using it?
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    A huge example for me, I think, was getting an interdisciplinary degree in college. Also in addition to seeing so many options, seeing so many ways things could go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    A huge example for me, I think, was getting an interdisciplinary degree in college. Also in addition to seeing so many options, seeing so many ways things could go wrong.
    That's interesting. I chose something interdisciplinary for grad school, and that's kind of the career path I'm going down. It took a long time for me to decide I wanted to commit to that, but I still needed a lot of flexibility.
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    Ne + Fi = so many options, but liking none of them, so no options

    It also equals fantasizing a lot about scenarios in which feelings are amplified (a 4 thing). It could be negative feelings too, like having an imaginary argument, or imagining what it'd feel like to get into or witness a horrible car wreck. Or obviously positive feelings, like idealizing relationships or what the future would look like if I "made it" based on my own desires.

    I'm not very imaginative in a surreal or apocalyptic way. I suspect that's more an Ne thing with 7s and 9s, or 6s and 5s, respectively.
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    I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but going off the conversation...

    When I have to be around other people I take in everything- peoples eyes, body language, gesturings.
    Let's say, a person is limping. Are they in pain? Is it an old injury or something new? Have they just been standing for too long? Can I help in some way?
    That information passes through my mind faster than I can completely (consciously) process it, most of the time. I, sometimes, have to pause and reflect on why I'm feeling a certain way. Using the example above: I'll start scanning an area for a chair for someone, then wonder why the heck I'm doing that lol. Then it hits me- the person and their limp and a compulsion to help.

    But then "logic" kicks in. Maybe they've limped all their life. Perhaps they'd feel insulted if I said or did anything. And then I feel annoyed at my brain for giving me useless information lol So, unless there's an apparent need to act (a kid's about to walk in front of a car), then I just brush the info aside and try to forget about it.

    I do the same thing when driving: a car was going almost 90mph but has slowed down a great deal. Does he have a radar detector? Is there a cop or an accident in front of him? Is he texting or playing with the radio? And what about that idiot who just swerved onto the berm and the other guy who's tailgating me?

    It's exhausting.

    As for Peter Deadpan's post, that used to be me so hard core. I would spend HOURS in "daydreams". In one of them, I drove off a hillside during a snow storm. I was injured and had amnesia (of course ). I walked and walked through a blizzard until I stumbled across a cave. I had to warm up and treat my injuries using only the stuff in my fanny pack and jacket. What would I use? I pass out from the pain and shock and weeks pass and I still have no memory. Thankfully, there was a natural spring inside the cave. Unfortunately, the opening was too narrow and I got snowed in. Okay... how would I solve that problem? What could I make to keep it from happening again?
    The story just kept growing and growing- how I could hunt and treat/store the kills. How does one make a primitive smokehouse?
    Then, a guy showed up. A hunter. I was raped and became pregnant. (I killed him, of course, and made a daring get away.)
    But now, how do I take care of a baby in these conditions? Twins? Are you kidding me, imagination?!

    For a couple of years, or so, I built on to the story until:
    One day, I get brave and leave the place I called home. I had adopted someone's horse and a stray dog over the years. I used those to transport the kids and all the stuff I had made (for trading). I got to a town and as I was leaving, someone said (to another person): "That poor lady. No one knows who she is, but she comes here from time to time. She thinks she has a son and daughter, but there's never anyone with her."

    So yeah... surreal and apocalyptic summed up my musings quite well.

    I finally figured out I was having them to begin with because I was frightened of the drive I had to take from town to our country house. I lived there, of and on, for a few years and was especially nervous during Winter. It was a coping mechanism as well as a way to kill time during long drives. People ask, "well, how bad could it be" (referring to anything and everything). I tend to imagine just how terrible things CAN go and what I could do to fix/change/survive it. Doing so actually makes me feel better lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    Ne + Fi = so many options, but liking none of them, so no options

    It also equals fantasizing a lot about scenarios in which feelings are amplified (a 4 thing). It could be negative feelings too, like having an imaginary argument, or imagining what it'd feel like to get into or witness a horrible car wreck. Or obviously positive feelings, like idealizing relationships or what the future would look like if I "made it" based on my own desires.

    I'm not very imaginative in a surreal or apocalyptic way. I suspect that's more an Ne thing with 7s and 9s, or 6s and 5s, respectively.
    This is actually what I was hoping to find out with this thread, how the INFP use of it might be different. So, it's sort of speculative emotional exploration, maybe? Like thinking about how you would feel in other scenarios (which I do, but probably everyone does), but also coming up with scenarios that fit your feelings? Or am I way off here?

    What do you mean by imaginative in a "apocalyptic way"? I'm not that into the zombie thing. I find TWD to be kind of boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius_Van_Der_Beak View Post
    This is actually what I was hoping to find out with this thread, how the INFP use of it might be different. So, it's sort of speculative emotional exploration, maybe? Like thinking about how you would feel in other scenarios (which I do, but probably everyone does), but also coming up with scenarios that fit your feelings? Or am I way off here?

    What do you mean by imaginative in a "apocalyptic way"? I'm not that into the zombie thing. I find TWD to be kind of boring.
    For a long time, I thought I couldn't possibly be an Ne user because I don't have a wild imagination that dips into the surreal or what have you. I don't wander around thinking about what it'd be like to live in an underwater world or outer space or whatever. I don't even have crazy dreams (I know a lot of people who have apocalyptic dreams and I'm sure some people think about that stuff during waking hours too).

    I've totally laid in bed at night though imagining what I'd do if someone broke into my house. I imagine the fear and what path I might take to get to the kitchen for a knife (lots of Te here too). But everything I imagine is mostly rooted in reality in some way. I do speculate on possibilities, like could we all just be in a computer simulation? And I'll come up with supportive reasoning for that, like "maybe that explains how someone can have a traumatic brain injury and wake up with the ability to speak another language, like wires being crossed in the programming". Still, that's relatively rooted in reality (I'm not mentally writing the next Fifth Element or Harry Potter).

    But yes, mostly I just fantasize about silly things, like love, or envisioning the home I want built into the tree canopy one day. I also connect a lot of real stuff to abstract conceptual stuff. Like a tree swaying in a storm will immediately represent a person struggling in life but staying grounded by bending with the gusts (the gusts representing whatever difficulties life throws our way). I can unravel such a comparison on many different levels (incorporating the leaves as being that which we need to let go of, incorporating the seasons to represent symbolic death and rebirth, etc etc etc).
    Perpetual mood


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    but to seem to, try to, or try to seem to."


    Philip Trussell

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    I relate a lot to what Peter Deadpan describes. I spend a lot of time in fantasy, but they are not out-of-this-world fantasies. They're mostly about love. There are also fantasies of what might happen in the future, what I'll do about it, how it'll feel. I used to fantasize about the past, and rewrite some things, but not anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    For a long time, I thought I couldn't possibly be an Ne user because I don't have a wild imagination that dips into the surreal or what have you. I don't wander around thinking about what it'd be like to live in an underwater world or outer space or whatever. I don't even have crazy dreams (I know a lot of people who have apocalyptic dreams and I'm sure some people think about that stuff during waking hours too).

    I've totally laid in bed at night though imagining what I'd do if someone broke into my house. I imagine the fear and what path I might take to get to the kitchen for a knife (lots of Te here too). But everything I imagine is mostly rooted in reality in some way. I do speculate on possibilities, like could we all just be in a computer simulation? And I'll come up with supportive reasoning for that, like "maybe that explains how someone can have a traumatic brain injury and wake up with the ability to speak another language, like wires being crossed in the programming". Still, that's relatively rooted in reality (I'm not mentally writing the next Fifth Element or Harry Potter).

    But yes, mostly I just fantasize about silly things, like love, or envisioning the home I want built into the tree canopy one day. I also connect a lot of real stuff to abstract conceptual stuff. Like a tree swaying in a storm will immediately represent a person struggling in life but staying grounded by bending with the gusts (the gusts representing whatever difficulties life throws our way). I can unravel such a comparison on many different levels (incorporating the leaves as being that which we need to let go of, incorporating the seasons to represent symbolic death and rebirth, etc etc etc).
    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    I relate a lot to what Peter Deadpan describes. I spend a lot of time in fantasy, but they are not out-of-this-world fantasies. They're mostly about love. There are also fantasies of what might happen in the future, what I'll do about it, how it'll feel. I used to fantasize about the past, and rewrite some things, but not anymore.
    So would you say it often involves a sort of metaphorical, poetical perspective?
    A path is made by walking on it.

    -Zhuangzi



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