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    perception bias and mistyping

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    The majority of people are Sp first, and So is the next overall most common instinct. That's because humans, like all animals, are primarily concerned with survival, and humans happen to be a social species. Therefore, the bigger picture represents a preference for Sp > So > Sx, which is also syn-flow and thus representative of working together to survive.

    The order of instinctual stacks from most common to least common is as follows:
    Sp/So
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    Sp/Sx
    So/Sx
    Sx/Sp
    Sx/So

    So, if you think you are Sx-first, you might want to reconsider and delve deeper into research and introspection because the statistics say otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    I also wonder if sp/sx'ers don't self-mistype as sx-dom. I know I did, I feel like my sp-dom centers around keeping the sx in check, feeling like it's the defining part of me.


    I know it's old af, but I'm curious about this. Elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexcoder View Post

    I know it's old af, but I'm curious about this. Elaborate?
    Qlip left the forum (), but he and I are similarly typed, and I agree with his sentiment here. However, we're both 4s, so we naturally seek an intangible sort of intensity or at least something external to us to fulfill us, which is often perceived as a romantic interest or perhaps an intense experience to pull us out of our perceived misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    Qlip left the forum (), but he and I are similarly typed, and I agree with his sentiment here. However, we're both 4s, so we naturally seek an intangible sort of intensity or at least something external to us to fulfill is, which is often perceived as a romantic interest or perhaps an intense experience to pull us out of our perceived misery.

    Thanks, that makes a lot of sense to me when you put it that way because I can relate to it coming from the opposite end. As a 9 I loathe certain kinds of intensity (particularly in the emotional realm, as it disturbs the inertia / inner peace), and it can be a bit tricky examining 9 and IV-only Sx descriptions because of that. (I was actually just now writing a post which said this though, now it's going to be a bit redundant, but oh well.)
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    i have no idea, but i would guess that sx doms (like myself) often are very focused on what makes other people tick and obtaining a clear understanding of others... close connections are based on mutual understanding and respect...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obfuscate View Post
    i have no idea, but i would guess that sx doms (like myself) often are very focused on what makes other people tick and obtaining a clear understanding of others... close connections are based on mutual understanding and respect...
    Not to shite on you or your knowledge, but mutual understanding and respect fall into the realm of the social instinct. The sexual instinct is actually more about objectification (plugging into a "fix", like a drug) and doesn't involve any goal of reciprocation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    Not to shite on you or your knowledge, but mutual understanding and respect fall into the realm of the social instinct. The sexual instinct is actually more about objectification (plugging into a "fix", like a drug) and doesn't involve any goal of reciprocation.

    deleted, @bechimo said it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    Not to shite on you or your knowledge, but mutual understanding and respect fall into the realm of the social instinct. The sexual instinct is actually more about objectification (plugging into a "fix", like a drug) and doesn't involve any goal of reciprocation.
    Can you expand on this, including providing which enneagram expert forwards this view? The reason I ask is that it's not something that I've heard of before and am curious where I might find the information within context.
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    The Enneagram Institute defines them as:

    Sexual (aka “Attraction”) Instinct

    Many people originally identify themselves as this type because they have learned that the Sexual types are interested in “one-on-one relationships.” But all three instinctual types are interested in one-on-one relationships for different reasons, so this does not distinguish them. The key element in Sexual types is an intense drive for stimulation and a constant awareness of the “chemistry” between themselves and others. Sexual types are immediately aware of the attraction, or lack thereof, between themselves and other people. Further, while the basis of this instinct is related to sexuality, it is not necessarily about people engaging in the sexual act. There are many people that we are excited to be around for reasons of personal chemistry that we have no intention of “getting involved with.” Nonetheless, we might be aware that we feel stimulated in certain people’s company and less so in others. The sexual type is constantly moving toward that sense of intense stimulation and juicy energy in their relationships and in their activities. They are the most “energized” of the three instinctual types, and tend to be more aggressive, competitive, charged, and emotionally intense than the Self-Pres or Social types. Sexual types need to have intense energetic charge in their primary relationships or else they remain unsatisfied. They enjoy being intensely involved—even merged—with others, and can become disenchanted with partners who are unable to meet their need for intense energetic union. Losing yourself in a “fusion” of being is the ideal here, and Sexual types are always looking for this state with others and with stimulating objects in their world.

    Social (aka “Adaptive”) Instinct

    Just as many people tend to misidentify themselves as Sexual types because they want one-on-one relationships, many people fail to recognize themselves as Social types because they get the (false) idea that this means always being involved in groups, meetings, and parties. If Self-Preservation types are interested in adjusting the environment to make themselves more secure and comfortable, Social types adapt themselves to serve the needs of the social situation they find themselves in. Thus, Social types are highly aware of other people, whether they are in intimate situations or in groups. They are also aware of how their actions and attitudes are affecting those around them. Moreover, Sexual types seek intimacy, Social types seek personal connection: they want to stay in long-term contact with people and to be involved in their world. Social types are the most concerned with doing things that will have some impact on their community, or even broader domains. They tend to be warmer, more open, engaging, and socially responsible than the other two types. In their primary relationships, they seek partners with whom they can share social activities, wanting their intimates to get involved in projects and events with them. Paradoxically, they actually tend to avoid long periods of exclusive intimacy and quiet solitude, seeing both as potentially limiting. Social types lose their sense of identity and meaning when they are not involved with others in activities that transcend their individual interests.
    I think the bold implies a need for reciprocation.
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