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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    Your morals are not universal - they're relative. Stripping/having sex for money is her (or his, let's not forget the man) choice and doesn't affect anyone else, so I would stop pushing your subjective beliefs onto other people.
    Also...

    Is this objectively true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I just sat here for the longest time trying to figure out what it was I wanted to say here (I've had a really long day haha) and whenever I get tired like this my concern is even moreso that I'm not making much sense. I agree with you here though. I can't bring myself to judge what has been described. I do wonder though how big this industry would be if people truly had the time and resources to nurture themselves and their relationships. I really do wonder how much of this stems from being so disconnected from who we are as individuals as well as each other. I always wonder about that.
    Mmmh...

    Such a good point...
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    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    This isn't necessarily true
    Who else would it affect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I just sat here for the longest time trying to figure out what it was I wanted to say here (I've had a really long day haha) and whenever I get tired like this my concern is even moreso that I'm not making much sense. I agree with you here though. I can't bring myself to judge what has been described. I do wonder though how big this industry would be if people truly had the time and resources to nurture themselves and their relationships. I really do wonder how much of this stems from being so disconnected from who we are as individuals as well as each other. I always wonder about that.
    I don't think it does that much. People who struggle with issues like that are unhealthy - it's their own problem, not the industry's. And it's unfair to blame someone for choosing to be a part of it. This would be like condemning cigarettes because it's unhealthy for people, even though it's the person's problem for choosing to smoke them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Mmmh...

    Such a good point...


    I just get a little emotional when I'm understood when I don't expect to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    Who else would it affect?



    I don't think it does that much. People who struggle with issues like that are unhealthy - it's their own problem, not the industry's. And it's unfair to blame someone for choosing to be a part of it. This would be like condemning cigarettes because it's unhealthy for people, even though it's the person's problem for choosing to smoke them.
    Okay this is what I expected haha. I'm not blaming anyone...really. just wondering how things might be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    Who else would it affect?
    All kinds of people, possibly.

    Their parents, their brothers and sisters, their friends, their neighbors, their community, and/or society as a whole.

    I don't think it does that much. People who struggle with issues like that are unhealthy - it's their own problem, not the industry's. And it's unfair to blame someone for choosing to be a part of it. This would be like condemning cigarettes because it's unhealthy for people, even though it's the person's problem for choosing to smoke them.
    So young.

    So individualistic.

    I remember when I thought just like you.
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    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post


    I just get a little emotional when I'm understood when I don't expect to be.
    Whenever you are feeling alone or misunderstood...

    Just remember...

    Zarathustra sees all, and knows all...
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    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Okay this is what I expected haha. I'm not blaming anyone...really. just wondering how things might be different.
    Am I really so predictable? haha

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    All kinds of people, possibly.

    Their parents, their brothers and sisters, their friends, their neighbors, their community, and/or society as a whole.
    Hmm, I can see how her family/neighbors/community could be condemned by association with her, but then that goes back to the problem that she shouldn't really be labeled as "amoral" for what she decides to do with her body. Society as a whole is a broader topic I really don't have the energy to talk about.

    So young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Whenever you are feeling alone or misunderstood...

    Just remember...

    Zarathustra sees all, and knows all...

    Ummm... I'm not sure how therapeutic this imagery will be but...okay haha.

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    I find a strong dichotomy inside myself for longing to connect deeply and needing to run away from everyone and become a hermit. It is an unsettling dichotomy and I end up looking for another person who is similar to share those same needs with. I recently had a conversation with a friend where I said, "when I connect I need it to be real and deep, and when I'm alone, it needs to be pure and solitary. Living in the middle tears me in two."

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