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Multiple Enneagram Subtypes/Instincts Sexual-lasts and 'Passion'

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Is it possible for an Sx-last songwriter to really "touch" people emotionally or naturally convey the passion necessary to do so? The only example I can think of is Morrissey (4w3 Sp/So), but all Fours might as well be Sx-types.
 

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Is it possible for an Sx-last songwriter to really "touch" people emotionally or naturally convey the passion necessary to do so? The only example I can think of is Morrissey (4w3 Sp/So), but all Fours might as well be Sx-types.

I used to when I was younger, but I lost my touch…
 

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I initially thought this was just about sx-lasts and I was gonna be like, "I'm pretty sure anyone can touch you emotionally as you get closer to them over time." :thinking:

For songwriters, Ingrid Michaelson may be an so/sp (from what I remember) and I really like her music.
 

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all 4s might as well be sx? that's the silliest thing i've ever read! maybe on PersonalityCafé where everyone claims to be 4 sx because they enjoy sex and therefore they are oh so very sx, when in reality so/sp is the most common stacking.
 

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all 4s might as well be sx? that's the silliest thing i've ever read! maybe on PersonalityCafé where everyone claims to be 4 sx because they enjoy sex and therefore they are oh so very sx, when in reality so/sp is the most common stacking.
I think what [MENTION=18664]Stansmith[/MENTION] means is that 4s kind of have a Sx quality to them regardless of their instinctual stacking. It's true of me, and I'm Sx-last.

I think with some other types this can be true too. Sx-last 6s can be quite passionate too in their mode of artistic expression, even though they may be more diffuse in their general communication style. I'm not sure about others; perhaps 1s and 8s are the same?
 

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all 4s might as well be sx? that's the silliest thing i've ever read! maybe on PersonalityCafé where everyone claims to be 4 sx because they enjoy sex and therefore they are oh so very sx, when in reality so/sp is the most common stacking.

LOL! And where you are probably a 6.

In response to the OP, I've had a sx-last 5w6 insist she was a very passionate person, but that it simply didn't manifest in an I'm-going-to-obsess-about-this-day-and-night, sx-first sort of way. That's the only evidence I have on that front, but I can imagine that being able to "touch" others with passion is a very human quality, not confined solely to sx-firsts. I think the instinct is only responsible for the way it manifests.
 

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Sanjuro said:
That's the only evidence I have on that front, but I can imagine that being able to "touch" others with passion is a very human quality, not confined solely to sx-firsts. I think the instinct is only responsible for the way it manifests.

Yeah. Like Sanjuro said, different ways of manifesting. I think everyone has a little something in them that reaches out to touch others. I don't know how many people channel that into songwriting... but certainly there are many ways of connecting with others. I think it'd be easier for a Sx type to touch another Sx type but maybe a Sx-last wouldn't feel that connection. Maybe Sp/So would connect more hearing about personal struggle and establishing their place in the world, while Sx/So would feel more in tune with hearing about the drive to shake up the world and revolutionize the status quo - something like that.
 

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I think the instinct is only responsible for the way it manifests.

Yeah. Like Sanjuro said, different ways of manifesting. I think everyone has a little something in them that reaches out to touch others. I don't know how many people channel that into songwriting... but certainly there are many ways of connecting with others. I think it'd be easier for a Sx type to touch another Sx type but maybe a Sx-last wouldn't feel that connection. Maybe Sp/So would connect more hearing about personal struggle and establishing their place in the world, while Sx/So would feel more in tune with hearing about the drive to shake up the world and revolutionize the status quo - something like that.
I agree with this. :yes:
 

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I personally want to know what passion for the sx last feels like in general.
 

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I personally want to know what passion for the sx last feels like in general.

If I feel it, it is an intense energy in my chest.
Though I haven't felt it in a long time…
I miss the feeling…
 

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all 4s might as well be sx? that's the silliest thing i've ever read! maybe on PersonalityCafé where everyone claims to be 4 sx because they enjoy sex and therefore they are oh so very sx, when in reality so/sp is the most common stacking.

I still don't sip the Kool-aid like so many others on these sites and I still believe that sex and the sx variant are definitely related.

If I feel it, it is an intense energy in my chest.
Though I haven't felt it in a long time…
I miss the feeling…

Why don't you feel it anymore?
 

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As a SX laster of sorts. My passion is generally towards addictions and things like that. IE it's somewhat difficult for me to get excited, but I typically tend to obsess over things that I found. Even if I knowingly think they are sort of stupid. IE I tend to look at various internet articles as if I'm glued to them, and I more or less marathoned Breaking Bad. Only taking a break to get snacks.

The most extreme of which is when I was reading a site called TVtropes. I would often view their articles for literal weeks before taking small breaks to do it again while listening to music, though now I have no interest in it and more or less forgot all about it. I also tend to eat even whenever I am full, because the craving of the food stuffs is too intense, despite the fact that my belly is aching. I also masturbate a lot. 3-4 times a day is the normal for me.
 

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As a SX laster of sorts. My passion is generally towards addictions and things like that. IE it's somewhat difficult for me to get excited, but I typically tend to obsess over things that I found. Even if I knowingly think they are sort of stupid. IE I tend to look at various internet articles as if I'm glued to them, and I more or less marathoned Breaking Bad. Only taking a break to get snacks.

The most extreme of which is when I was reading a site called TVtropes. I would often view their articles for literal weeks before taking small breaks to do it again while listening to music, though now I have no interest in it and more or less forgot all about it. I also tend to eat even whenever I am full, because the craving of the food stuffs is too intense, despite the fact that my belly is aching. I also masturbate a lot. 3-4 times a day is the normal for me.

What exactly do you do for a living?
 

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I still don't sip the Kool-aid like so many others on these sites and I still believe that sex and the sx variant are definitely related.



Why don't you feel it anymore?
It's hard to get excited anymore…
I'm stuck in a rut, and I lack self-confidence…
 

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I feel dense like I'm not following this thread. :(
Passion to me is not necessarily a constant. Like the overused passion for {fill in the blank whatever is your thing in this world.} Passion between two people has to do with chemistry. I think passion in someone saying they lost their touch- can get ignited with that right partner that the chemistry is THERE. As for it manifesting in art- I think it's just a matter of feeling free at a time when you are focused and relaxed and allowing it to emerge. Am I a dork and kindergarten- I feel you guys are like talking on some major plane that I don't understand. lol ;)
 
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