I am actually blabbering on about something very important, namely the reason why the ISFP is actually called an ISFP and not any other random name you can come up with. The reason for this is that Myers-Briggs based her work on Jung's book Psychology Types where Jung describes in great detail how there are 4 different functions with 2 different attitude sets each resulting with a total of what we lazily refer to as 8 functions in typology land, even though this is actually incorrect because Jung did not describe 8 functions, he described 8 function attitudes.
Jung being very inspired by Freud (although he hated the man) wanted to develop a theory of the human psyche which was based on Freud's early idea of the conscious-unconscious, id ego and superego. What Jung thus proposed was that the human psyche is made up of our consciousness and unconsciousness and the conscious part of our psyche is represented by our ego. Being inspired by various forms of esoteric and mystic thought, Jung also assumed that the human psyche is in possession of 4 different ways to understand the world around us: thinking, feeling, intuition and sensation. Jung further assumed that during the development of a child, the child will eventually come to prefer one of these ways to understand world by identifying the ego with the function itself. Jung also noted these functions could in turn take on two different attitudes: introversion and extroversion, and he explained that the difference between them is where our ego focus is oriented. If our ego focus is oriented towards the objective and external world it is extraverted because the focus is to look outside the self, but if the ego focus is on one's internal world then the ego focus is introverted. In order to delineate the functions into their respective function attitudes, Jung thus choose to call feeling as either extroverted feeling or introverted feeling. Because this is very long to write out, we have shortened it down to Fe and Fi respectively.
When Myers-Briggs made the MBTI, what they thus did was to take Jung's original work and streamline it into single letter combinations. I/E represents introversion-extroversion, S/N sensation and intuition and T/F thinking and feeling. However, this does not explain the functional preference so she decided to add another letter code, J/P, which focuses on the first extroverted function, because Myers-Briggs proposed that in order to achieve a healthy perspective of th world, the psyche must accept another function as a part of the ego preference with an opposite attitude and function role than the dominant function. This is how we arrive at the ISFP letter code because the ISFP type has a preference towards Fi-Se-Ni-Te in this function order. Without you actually understanding this fundamental aspect of the MBTI, I am afraid that any behaviors, traits and stereotypes you wish to ascribe a certain type will have zero value since they are just that, your personal projections onto said type but does not actually reflect the actual reality of the type itself.
So in other words, they just fall on different places on the femininity scale.
This sounds like a bad excuse for you to continue being the way you are.
"Without you actually understanding this fundamental aspect of the MBTI"
i dont know where youre getting these assumptions, i consider these things as obvious so thats it of me not understanding. its not the functions which explain isfp's super vulnerability, its the total, the whole deal, not just some few functions, but them all operating together.
"You didn't answer the question. What does femininity actually mean to you? How is it depicted as? Are you Catholic, Protestant or anything else? I have a vague idea of you coming from South America though."
in short, any female infj is the image of ideal feminity to me. and nope, im finnish.
"No, not really. If you are an INxJ type, your dominant ego function is a perceiving one (S/N) and those with dominant perception are irrational because they have no conscious control of their perceptions. This overall makes them far less likely to be judgemental in contrast to say, an ExFJ or even IxTP because their dominant function is irrational, not judging."
perhaps so, i do have noticed dominant judgers tend to be firm on their judgments, but same time it seems to me they make such a HUGE number of judgments which creates a person open to all kinds of judgments. perhaps its then that no control over my perception which makes them so convincing to me, making it hard to question them. for example, my most recent problem is that i experience a feeling which goes beyound everything i understand, like its just supernatural, and i know its what christians call god, but i call it me. although it still baffles me greatly, why cant i just understand it perfectly? i know its the social energy of so sx, cause sx is the individual so social energy comes before individual for so sx which makes it very baffling. aka why many so sx are into buddhism, new age, hippieism, etc. it feels kind of really annoying knowing my feelings are so open, that i have absolutely no privacy over them cause my social instinct broadcasts them.. which creates hell alot of responsibility over my feelings so my feelings wouldnt be misunderstood. and that whole thing makes it all so damn annoyingly serious business, why cant i just be myself?
"Your observations mean very little without any theory backing it up. This statement here just further emphasizes your cognitive extroverted bias."
are you saying im an extrovert? lol, im 100% certain im an infj, i have absoluely no doubt, cause i have so much personal proof. same goes to me being 9w1 and so sx. and no theory backing up? you know, i have the opposite problem, im always TOO theoretical about everything. it wouldnt be a bad thing if my theories can keep up to my observations. but often i get more data than i can understand, and then im overwhelmed.
"I could but I doubt it would say much to me to be honest. I think it's more relevant to look into how the counter-nature of the instincts when they take a neurotic behavior. An example is how my sx is anti-sx by rejecting all things sx and see it as wrong or stupid. An unhealthy so/sx type would just likely be someone who is fiercely critical of their own society probably in relation to the sexual values represented in it. Makes me wonder if the society you live in is promoting a) an extremely promiscuous attitude towards sex or b) doing the completely opposite. The end result is that you still probably project like a clusterfuck in this thread to repress your own sexual desires."
yes i know that phenomena, its called the unhealthy manifestation of instincts. i too am an anti So in the way that i reject the tender energy of my So in fear of being overwhelmed by it. and yeah, i do hate this culture and its obsessive sexual values. i just find the way sexuality is viewed in this culture as inherently deeply disgusting and self centered behaviour. but i do have found my own sexual path with which im completely proud to be in, which is that of demisexuality (attraction to person rather than their body). considering you even know of unhealthy instincts behaviour, i wonder why you havent yet figured your own type. perhaps its because you look too much into detail and thus fail to see the big picture. i also think there are really much more demisexuals than just those who know they are, its just that it isnt widely known so there are many demisexuals who just dont know a name for their sexuality, and seeking it from the known superficial sexualities will only get your head messed up.
so i do think your abilities are impressive, but i think your weakness is in seeing it all as a single picture.
"So I googled "dark so/sx" and yes, it turns out meaning little. I am not even sure by what description you go on here as there are plenty of threads to find about this, but if you mean the one at Enneagram Institute, as the poster below pointed out, it just sounded as mostly very neurotic 4-behavior (the most strongly associated to the borderline personality disorder according to Naranjo). So if you suffer all those issues described in the OP, I would re-evaluate your core type and/or tritype as 4 would be an arguable influence in you then"
i have been thinking four could be my secondary, its rather weak, but i _know_ i have that 4w3 drive in me, its just so weak.. although that 7w6 drive in me has been feeling much stronger than my 4w3 lately. i do want my tender feelings, the w5 side of 4w3, but i find it extremely hard to motivate myself into feelings i consider even slightly negative. although that could also be my nine..
well, in short i would say so sx when unhealthy, becomes anti social bitch much like sp sx. and for me its all about that faith in humanity. no faith, and i become bitch. im also certain that each insinct starts to look like the one they hate most when unhealthy, the two other combinations being sx so - sp so and sx sp - so sp.
(the green dragon)
