[sx] You know you're an sx-dom when...

[Thalassa]

I think it's the sp last people who don't care about material things.

They have never known the joy of pulling a wad of cash out of your garter and counting it repeatedly.

 

[Thalassa]

The fear of losing favor with your infatuation or confessor... The most terrifying thing for me.

You know you are when seeking intimacy is the number one driving force in your life....

Yes, this pretty much is the definition of the way I am.

 

[brainheart]

Yes, this pretty much is the definition of the way I am.

And at this time I am avoiding intimacy (cause it's gotten me in trouble) so my life motivation is being majorly restrained. Hence baring my soul on typoc.

 

[Nomenclature]

I hate most material crap too, but I have ideal places I want to live, usually it involves trees or boats or paris or all. I like looking at photos of cool home settings I'd like to be, aesthetically pleasing simplicity, you know, me and my typewriter and a cool desk overlooking the seine. I want to maintain my alone time and that with intimates, those I just met and those I've known for awhile. I get crazy wanderlust and I've got sx and sp going on in some order.

God, I want to live in IKEA. But for the sake of feasibility, I want to move to Portland, Ann Arbor, or Chicago when I'm older. Just any area where I don't need a car to get around and there's a party every night.

Hmmm... when you don't remember the last time you didn't have an infatuation or confessor, period.

 

[skylights]

I think it's the sp last people who don't care about material things.

They have never known the joy of pulling a wad of cash out of your garter and counting it repeatedly.

that's what you think.

 

[Thalassa]

that's what you think.

I've just heard sp last say things like Vala says, like the material world doesn't matter and I just don't relate.

I like good food. I like being in casinos. I like nice places. I like luxury. I've always been toward between my need for beauty and sophistication (which often costs money) and my need to help other people.

I have pretty strong convictions about hating greed, because I fucking hate greed, but I do like things. I like nice things. I like the feeling of money in my hand.

 

[Rail Tracer]

I've just heard sp last say things like Vala says, like the material world doesn't matter and I just don't relate.

I like good food. I like being in casinos. I like nice places. I like luxury. I've always been toward between my need for beauty and sophistication (which often costs money) and my need to help other people.

I have pretty strong convictions about hating greed, because I fucking hate greed, but I do like things. I like nice things. I like the feeling of money in my hand.

Money, an evil necessity. Too bad to get anywhere in this world, you need money.

My stance is work to live, not live too work. Too bad my stance ain't the American way.

I don't take pleasure in counting money.

 

[Thalassa]

Money, an evil necessity. Too bad to get anywhere in this world, you need money.

My stance is work to live, not live too work. Too bad my stance ain't the American way.

I don't take pleasure in counting money.

I don't live to work, far from it. I've either been an independent contractor or freelance for most of my life, in between crappy low-wage jobs to make ends meet.

I take pleasure in counting money because I know what it's like to be poor.

I've noticed a lot of people who are smug about money are very comfortably middle class and have been for most of their lives.

There's a hypocrisy in that.

I actually live very humbly, and I believe in generosity and economy.

However, I do like nice things, and I do like the opportunities that money gives, and I live close enough to reality to realize that MONEY is what makes those things possible, not my mommy and daddy or my husband.

 

[Amargith]

I've just heard sp last say things like Vala says, like the material world doesn't matter and I just don't relate.

I like good food. I like being in casinos. I like nice places. I like luxury. I've always been toward between my need for beauty and sophistication (which often costs money) and my need to help other people.

I have pretty strong convictions about hating greed, because I fucking hate greed, but I do like things. I like nice things. I like the feeling of money in my hand.

Ohhhh hon..no no nooo. I take pleasure in pretty things and they cost a pretty penny. I love living in luxury and I enjoy an estetically pleasing and authentic (read expensive real wooden furniture etc) surroundings. However. I have no problem living boho style either. I find joy in luxury and I won't say no to it when it comes my way, but I cannot be bothered to work my ass off for it. And I have no problem blowing 3000 euro at once one moment and then going six months without spending *any* money on myself. Whatever's there, I work with, basically, coz I *don't* care. Other things take priority over material shit...doesn't mean I cannot appreciate it when it's there though and since I'm dating an sp-dom INTJ, it's not like I haven' experienced that pleasure before

Don't people with so last appreciate it when family harmony is naturally there, without conflict and you all just have a blast when you go out? You don't *need* it per se, and you're not afraid of conflict..but I'm sure you appreciate it when someone is willing to take upon them to steer that group and make it a cosy day out, as long as it's not you that has to do the work

 

[Amargith]

You know you're sx-dom when entering a room unnoticed isn't an option, nor is flying under the radar.

 

[Elfboy]

You know you're sx-dom when entering a room unnoticed isn't an option, nor is flying under the radar.

not necessarily, you could also be
- a 4
- a 3
- a 7
- an SP (sensing perceiving)
- an extrovert

 

[Elfboy]

you know you're an Sx dom when
- you snuggle with a pillow if you're lonely
- you have a split personality between flamboyant/magnetic and sweet/nurturing
- you love romantic stories...and you're a guy
- you feel a constant "longing" for something. you wish it would go away, but it doesn't.
- you have long, obsessive and downright painful crushes on people
- you know how to get someone comfortable and close to you in a very short amount of time
- you catch every sexual joke, whether the person meant to say it or not
- people frequently compare you to elements: fiery, electric, icy, breath of fresh air
- you walk into a room and completely change the energy
- people either love you or hate you, but everyone has an opinion about you
- you always make sure you're lookin' fly when you head out the door
- you related to the main characters from Night at the Roxbury

 

[ICUP]

you know you're an Sx dom when
- you snuggle with a pillow if you're lonely

Or a giant Hello Kitty.

The rest pretty much are, or have been, true for me. I think sx can suck.

 

[Elfboy]

Or a giant Hello Kitty.
The rest pretty much are, or have been, true for me. I think sx can suck.

why is that? it sounds like so much fun
Edit: (these are all true for me too btw)

 

[Amargith]

not necessarily, you could also be
- a 4
- a 3
- a 7
- an SP (sensing perceiving)
- an extrovert

I'm sx-dom on top of all those bolded items as well

And btw, I know plenty of SPs, especially ISTPs who are ingenius at staying under the radar, exactly as long as they want to stay there. I'll confess that when they do decide to reveal, they're can be...breathtakingly intense

Also, my INTJ so is a 3 and he has *no* problem whatsoever to stay under the radar. Once he starts getting passionate, which in turn turns him incredibly competent at whatever he's doing...*then* he gets noticed, much to his dismay as it distracts him from his work. Once he's done though, he very much enjoys the glory that comes from a hard days work

 

[MacGuffin]

Once he's done though, he very much enjoys the glory that comes from a hard days work

I just like to get paid...

 

[Zoom]

I think it's the sp last people who don't care about material things.

They have never known the joy of pulling a wad of cash out of your garter and counting it repeatedly.

I've just heard sp last say things like Vala says, like the material world doesn't matter and I just don't relate.

I like good food. I like being in casinos. I like nice places. I like luxury. I've always been toward between my need for beauty and sophistication (which often costs money) and my need to help other people.

I have pretty strong convictions about hating greed, because I fucking hate greed, but I do like things. I like nice things. I like the feeling of money in my hand.

I don't live to work, far from it. I've either been an independent contractor or freelance for most of my life, in between crappy low-wage jobs to make ends meet.

I take pleasure in counting money because I know what it's like to be poor.

I've noticed a lot of people who are smug about money are very comfortably middle class and have been for most of their lives.

There's a hypocrisy in that.

I actually live very humbly, and I believe in generosity and economy.

However, I do like nice things, and I do like the opportunities that money gives, and I live close enough to reality to realize that MONEY is what makes those things possible, not my mommy and daddy or my husband.

When hearing or reading things like this from another, I would pay more attention to whether the person is comfortably middle class than sp, especially if inexperience is present - without the knowledge of what it is like to make and manage their own money.

The focus of sp on "the material world not mattering" isn't necessarily a moral judgement on money and its importance as much as a tendency to hoard what they do have, and to minimize their dependence on the outside world. They instinctively feel as if they have little energy, time, money, etc - so they hoard whatever it is that focus is on, sometimes while simultaneously keeping themselves from asking for much in the same department (from what I've noticed).

 

[Thalassa]

When hearing or reading things like this from another, I would pay more attention to whether the person is comfortably middle class than sp, especially if inexperience is present - without the knowledge of what it is like to make and manage their own money.

The focus of sp on "the material world not mattering" isn't necessarily a moral judgement on money and its importance as much as a tendency to hoard what they do have, and to minimize their dependence on the outside world. They instinctively feel as if they have little energy, time, money, etc - so they hoard whatever it is that focus is on, sometimes while simultaneously keeping themselves from asking for much in the same department (from what I've noticed).

Well, I've talked to an Intuitive who has sp last, and I don't relate to her at all about the physical world...I don't know if it's because she's so intuitive, so sp last, or what...but it has nothing to do with her social class or attitude toward money. I mentioned that because that is why *some people* say "oh money doesn't matter" or "money shouldn't matter"...it's because they've never had to worry about money in their life.

But anyway, yes the N/sp last person said she can forget to eat and forget her body and has a harder time staying in her body all that kind of stuff that is stereotypically N...but I think it may also have to do with being sp last in enneagram.

I don't relate. I don't forget to eat. I like to eat. If I don't go outdoors regularly, I get depressed. If I don't get enough physical activity, I can get depressed. I can "get into" my body easily, though I'm also in my head, and I can go through phases where I'm very "prepared" or over-prepared like an sp dom...but I'm much more of an sx dom, and I honestly think my sx/sp shows up the most in my defensive, emotionally reactive behavior.

 

[Zoom]

Well, I've talked to an Intuitive who has sp last, and I don't relate to her at all about the physical world...I don't know if it's because she's so intuitive, so sp last, or what...but it has nothing to do with her social class or attitude toward money. I mentioned that because that is why *some people* say "oh money doesn't matter" or "money shouldn't matter"...it's because they've never had to worry about money in their life.

But anyway, yes the N/sp last person said she can forget to eat and forget her body and has a harder time staying in her body all that kind of stuff that is stereotypically N...but I think it may also have to do with being sp last in enneagram.

I don't relate. I don't forget to eat. I like to eat. If I don't go outdoors regularly, I get depressed. If I don't get enough physical activity, I can get depressed. I can "get into" my body easily, though I'm also in my head, and I can go through phases where I'm very "prepared" or over-prepared like an sp dom...but I'm much more of an sx dom, and I honestly think my sx/sp shows up the most in my defensive, emotionally reactive behavior.

Okay. So these are two different topics, then - class/income level and obliviousness to the reality of money and how they physical world does or does not affect a person with an instinctive stacking of sp?

 

[Thalassa]

Okay. So these are two different topics, then - class/income level and obliviousness to the reality of money and how they physical world does or does not affect a person with an instinctive stacking of sp?

I think it could. I've seen people who reject the material world on spiritual, philosophical and/or ascetic principle or say "why do people care about money?" and they're actually from the lower-middle or working class, sometimes.

Yeah, I think that's still connected to being sp last in enneagram. It's one of the reasons why I could never be a Buddhist but find Taoism much more relevant for myself, because I think being ascetic and rejecting desire completely is kind of crazy, and I don't want to do it, because I'm a physical being living on a physical plane, and Taoism acknowledges that...as long as there is balance. The physical world isn't supposed to be valued OVER the spiritual or intellectual world, but it is to be acknowledged, accepted, and enjoyed and the philosophy rejects the notion that we can just ignore the physical world as spiritual people, kind of like it's just silly and impractical to do so. I agree.