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    Quote Originally Posted by Obfuscate View Post
    this is more or less how i think of these things...
    It doesn't make any sense to me to apply a black and white model. You exist as such, so work with the foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuu View Post
    What do I dislike about it? The eternal struggle between human connection and independence is very real. (But isn't that just the human condition? Is this really different from anyone else?)
    And be easily summed up by such phrases as
    “ I am an island.”
    “ I am the master of my own universe”
    “ If I want something done I have to do it myself!”
    and “ Why am I so alone?”
    I agree with the above, except I have long known the answer to the highlighted, and am fine with that bargain. I used to struggle with that balance more when I was younger, but learned it isn't worth it. Being included for the sake of it, or with other people for the sake of it, is empty and worse than being alone. To the extent that I am alone, it is because being with others has been stressful, unpleasant, counterproductive, or other negative things.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I agree with the above, except I have long known the answer to the highlighted, and am fine with that bargain. I used to struggle with that balance more when I was younger, but learned it isn't worth it. Being included for the sake of it, or with other people for the sake of it, is empty and worse than being alone. To the extent that I am alone, it is because being with others has been stressful, unpleasant, counterproductive, or other negative things.
    I actually I feel the very same. I would never pretend to be someone I'm not, or to care about things that I don't just to get along. The very act of status seeking disgusts me ( part of why I hate memes so much) I especially agree with your assessment of being with others.

    Still, feeling completely isolated and misunderstood is a pretty shitty place to be...though not so much that I would ever give up who I am to get out.
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    I am still considering myself omnivarient for now, slightly sp dom. Why? Because I can.

    I like and hate everything about everything at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    No likes or dislikes, only acceptance and subsequent accommodations.
    What have you had to accept or accommodate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    What have you had to accept or accommodate?
    To feel fulfilled, I need deep intimacy in relationships so I've learned to partner only with men who also need the same. It's a neutral observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuu View Post
    That is a lot of information. Thanks.

    I know someone I trusted here typed me as Sp/Sx and I read up on a little at the time.
    SP itself doesn’t like me at all, but just as an 8 with a 6 in the tri-type transforms it somewhat the sp with sx combination seems very applicable

    What do I dislike about it? The eternal struggle between human connection and independence is very real. (But isn't that just the human condition? Is this really different from anyone else?)
    And be easily summed up by such phrases as
    “ I am an island.”
    “ I am the master of my own universe”
    “ If I want something done I have to do it myself!”
    and “ Why am I so alone?”

    What do I like about it? Sheer resilience "So I’m alone. Bring on the world. I'll be the only one standing in the end."

    Like I said, my knowledge on this subject is limited but there is nothing I know more than myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I agree with the above, except I have long known the answer to the highlighted, and am fine with that bargain. I used to struggle with that balance more when I was younger, but learned it isn't worth it. Being included for the sake of it, or with other people for the sake of it, is empty and worse than being alone. To the extent that I am alone, it is because being with others has been stressful, unpleasant, counterproductive, or other negative things.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuu View Post
    I actually I feel the very same. I would never pretend to be someone I'm not, or to care about things that I don't just to get along. The very act of status seeking disgusts me ( part of why I hate memes so much) I especially agree with your assessment of being with others.

    Still, feeling completely isolated and misunderstood is a pretty shitty place to be...though not so much that I would ever give up who I am to get out.
    Thanks to both of you for your commentary on sp/sx, and, in particular, being so last.

    I can very much relate to the sx/sp hungry ghost, a constant desire for more. Maybe not more in the moment, but more when I'm not having it in the moment, which can be exhausting, frustrating, and sometimes crushing. The sx/sp/so has sp between sx and so, a barrier between interacting with the world enough (so) to get the sx I want.

    When I do find a brilliant sx connection, it's incredibly wonderful.
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    It seems there is a continuous flux with me between desiring and needing my own space, self sufficiency, strong drive for that, being fine with it, and then needing or wanting something that gives life more excitement and meaning, or being incredibly lonely and wishing for connection and even just comfort and feeling loved and accepted by someone else. Being truly loved, I guess. Also with sp first (probably a real and crucial difference between it and sx first), I find I can go back and forth between desiring intimacy and, well, being fine without it. But the desire always returns. It's like ping pong. Lacking the social drive, I end up doing nothing about any of this, most of the time. Or, nothing happens. So for me, for anything to actually 'happen' sx wise (in terms of potentially meeting new people), I'd have to resort to something more related to the social instinct, whether trying to be more social, maybe trying to find an activity I might like where I could meet people, etc. I have ended up resorting to this in the past but I haven't done it for a while. It'll have to he done again at some point here. I think though that this is where being sp first can really deplete the 'drive' to do it (because I AM fine, well, half of the time ), vs an sx first might be more readily apt to do it just because sx is that much more imperative.
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    A forum member here once described me as "sx blind af" because I had shown no interest in developing connections. Although I'm not as distant in real life as I am online, I'm still fairly aloof in my personal affairs. I need space to center myself and to detach from the world.

    I have little interest in dating or romance, mostly because I honestly feel I'm not missing out. It's better to be single than to be in a bad relationship. The very idea of needing someone else to be 'complete' doesn't register at all. If you don't feel content with who you are while single, why would you once circumstances change? Those self-esteem issues leave one vulnerable to manipulation and abuse.

    One potential issue is leaving a partner feeling cold. My gut response is that I'm not accountable for how others should feel about themselves. Sure, I'd offer comfort and support if they're going through a hard time, but I can't accept their personal experience as my own. Doing so would place too many expectations on the relationship.

    Also, I tend to hold back from revealing myself. The whole time, my inner critic kept me from making this post any more personal than it already is, and I still feel as though I've revealed too much.
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    @Shadow Play, aw, I really appreciate you sharing what you did, with how uncomfortable I know it can be to share things like that. (Sharing vulnerable things in public is very uncomfortable for me, too.)

    For what it's worth, what you describe might just be you being very much 5sp. Sx can be toward things: being hooked by something, 'turned on' energetically. It's possible to be asexual and have sx, for instance. Especially with 5, it's not going to be dropping walls and being psychologically nude with just anyone.
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