American Beer

[Spamtar]

During the hot summer I rather resent European beer and American micro brews. Rather during this season prefer the "pissh" American and Mexican mass marketed light beers.

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

If I buy a Budweiser at a bar, like I do when I drink, I get asked

Do you want

or
Budweiser?

 

[Beorn]

About to head out to the local brew pub. A black IPA is not something that immediately appeals to me. However, since this pub makes one they call Sex Panther I can't really turn that down. Marketing win.

 

[swordpath]

I don't drink much beer anymore but don't think I've every had an American beer that was actually good.

It's kind of like hot sauces. I can get a 69 cent bottle of Mexican hot sauce that's far better than any five dollar bottle of US hot sauce.

We seem to be incapable of brewing good beer.

Czech beer is probably the best though Belgium has some good ones too.

I disagree. Tons of good beer that comes out of microbreweries here in America, it's just not widely distributed/marketed. You've gotta become a bit of a snob and search it out.

 

[WALMART]

Golly am I thirsty.

 

[violet_crown]

Golly am I thirsty.

Reminds me that I was at Cowboys for a Randy Roger's concert a couple weeks ago and had thought about you. I believe we're overdue for a two-step, sir.

 

[highlander]

I disagree. Tons of good beer that comes out of microbreweries here in America, it's just not widely distributed/marketed. You've gotta become a bit of a snob and search it out.

I've never had a microbrew that I thought was better than mediocre. Not a one that is even as good as Hienikin.

 

[Thalassa]

I've never had a microbrew that I thought was better than mediocre. Not a one that is even as good as Hienikin.

Heineken sucks.

I think a lot of the Sam Adams are even better than Heineken.

I tend to like Belgian beers like Blue Moon and Hoegaarden, but I actually agree with Spamtar that Mexican beer is better in the summer. I drink more Coronas with lime (best) and Pabst Blue Ribbon (cheap) in the summer.

Wine isn't as good in the summer, either, mostly because I prefer dry reds which are better in cooler weather or at least at night.

Not that I drink all day.

I'm just going to stop talking now.

 

[WALMART]

Reminds me that I was at Cowboys for a Randy Roger's concert a couple weeks ago and had thought about you. I believe we're overdue for a two-step, sir.

Randy fuckin' Rogers. Have you been to Floore's, out towards Boerne?

We are far overdue, it should be remedied asap!

 

[highlander]

If I buy a Budweiser at a bar, like I do when I drink, I get asked

Do you want

This is good beer

 

[swordpath]

I've never had a microbrew that I thought was better than mediocre. Not a one that is even as good as Hienikin.

Well, I don't know what to say but I'd venture to say you haven't done much exploring. Heineken is not good or special, at all...

 

[highlander]

Well, I don't know what to say but I'd venture to say you haven't done much exploring. Heineken is not good or special, at all...

I disagree. The stuff is pretty good. It's a matter of taste really.

Czech beer is the best I have had. I don't have much of the stuff anymore though (not since my early 30s). Sam Adams I cannot stand.

 

[EffEmDoubleyou]

I think in the 80s and the first part of the 90s American beer did kind of suck. But now the best American beers are as good as anyone's. Anything from Deschutes, Dogfish Head, Stone, or Lagunitas is top notch. I really like Red Hook too, it's a teeny step down from those, but it's more affordable as well. I've never really enjoyed Heineken. It's fine I guess, but it's not something I'd seek out.

 

[highlander]

I think in the 80s and the first part of the 90s American beer did kind of suck. But now the best American beers are as good as anyone's. Anything from Deschutes, Dogfish Head, Stone, or Lagunitas is top notch. I really like Red Hook too, it's a teeny step down from those, but it's more affordable as well. I've never really enjoyed Heineken. It's fine I guess, but it's not something I'd seek out.

So are you saying Red Hook is as good as Pilsner Urquell or Newcastle Brown Ale? I don't see how it's even close. I haven't had those other ones you mention.

By the way, I'm not a big Heineken fan. I just think it's better than any of the American beers I've had.

 

[EffEmDoubleyou]

So are you saying Red Hook is as good as Pilsner Urquell or Newcastle Brown Ale? I don't see how it's even close. I haven't had those other ones you mention.

No, Red Hook is not as good as Newcastle, but Newcastle is an exceptional beer. I wasn't saying it's better than every beer from another country, merely that it's an example of an everyday American beer I like that's quite good. Your point was that you thought there weren't any good American beers, and that is one. I don't care much for Pilsner Urquell, but that's a taste thing, I understand it's held in high regard.

 

[Beorn]

This is good beer

I hate to pile on, but that's a beer to avoid in America along with Heineken. It's not a matter of taste, but of science. Green bottles let more UV light in that ruins beers and makes them skunky. It's hit or miss depending on freshness and storage with domestic green bottled beer like Yuengling (which is the best cheap beer when on draft on the east coast) but an imported green bottled beer will almost always taste skunky.

I can't remember if I've had the Czech bud, but I did have a staropramen and it's pretty good, though I don't see what all the fuss is about. However, I do agree that Newcastle is always a really great solid and dependable beer choice.

Edit: A supporting article
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/physics-and-green-beer-bottles/

 

[swordpath]

I think in the 80s and the first part of the 90s American beer did kind of suck. But now the best American beers are as good as anyone's. Anything from Deschutes, Dogfish Head, Stone, or Lagunitas is top notch. I really like Red Hook too, it's a teeny step down from those, but it's more affordable as well. I've never really enjoyed Heineken. It's fine I guess, but it's not something I'd seek out.

FM knows what's up. I lived in Seattle for a little over a year. The Northwest has great stuff. Deschutes, Elysian, Fremont Brewing Co., Maritime Brewing Co., Red Hook, Pyramid, and the list goes on. Stone is from San Diego, but they are the shit as well. Probably the best beer I've had from Seattle is Quilters Irish Death from Iron Horse Brewery - it's classified as a "dark smooth ale".

Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout from Northcoast is good too.

 

[highlander]

I hate to pile on, but that's a beer to avoid in America along with Heineken. It's not a matter of taste, but of science. Green bottles let more UV light in that ruins beers and makes them skunky. It's hit or miss depending on freshness and storage with domestic green bottled beer like Yuengling

I don't care much about science, only what tastes good. The original Bud is excellent. Belgium has some pretty good beer too if I can recall correctly.

 

[Beorn]

I don't care much about science, only what tastes good. The original Bud is excellent. Belgium has some pretty good beer too if I can recall correctly.

Fair enough.

 

[sorenx7]

So are you saying Red Hook is as good as Pilsner Urquell or Newcastle Brown Ale? I don't see how it's even close. I haven't had those other ones you mention.

By the way, I'm not a big Heineken fan. I just think it's better than any of the American beers I've had.

Totally agree.