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Why is obesity tolerated?

MetalMoon

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I don't comment on anyone's weight, fat or skinny. It's unnecessary and useless: does nothing to help them or improve their self-esteem. And for those people who think "they don't deserve self-esteem" or "well fat people need a wakeup call!" you're just adding to the problem. Obesity is a complex topic, and people who suffer from it need education and support, not belittlement. The focus seems to be primarily on weight-loss in this society as opposed to health. So before you scold a fat person for being fat: he already knows, dude.
 

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I wonder why in so many situations in life, humans so overwhelmingly prefer to blame individuals and ignore the environmental factors that contributed.

We lock people up (at exorbitant cost to taxpayers) and in some cases kill people for crimes committed, and pay little or no attention to things like poverty, education, role models, mental health treatment, and access to life opportunities that all may have helped prevent the crimes in the first place.

We talk about how evil someone must have been to shoot a bunch of kids, but make no attempt to change gun laws, improve mental health access, or prevent people from feeling alienated and hostile to society.

We complain about how lazy the poor are, but fail to appreciate the challenges they have to face daily that we don't, which suck up a lot of energy that might otherwise go towards "self-improvement", as well as the lack of hope of improvement (often realism rather than cynicism) which tends to be pretty demotivating - why bust your ass studying and working extra long hours and saving every penny if you think you'll always be poor regardless?

We mock people for being fat and pay little attention to improving infrastructure to promote activity, educating kids about healthy lifestyles, or actually making a healthy lifestyle accessible to someone in a poverty situation (both financially and time-wise).

Maybe we're afraid to admit that maybe we would go down some of those roads ourselves, if we'd led a different life.
 

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I wonder why in so many situations in life, humans so overwhelmingly prefer to blame individuals and ignore the environmental factors that contributed.

We lock people up (at exorbitant cost to taxpayers) and in some cases kill people for crimes committed, and pay little or no attention to things like poverty, education, role models, mental health treatment, and access to life opportunities that all may have helped prevent the crimes in the first place.

We talk about how evil someone must have been to shoot a bunch of kids, but make no attempt to change gun laws, improve mental health access, or prevent people from feeling alienated and hostile to society.

We complain about how lazy the poor are, but fail to appreciate the challenges they have to face daily that we don't, which suck up a lot of energy that might otherwise go towards "self-improvement", as well as the lack of hope of improvement (often realism rather than cynicism) which tends to be pretty demotivating - why bust your ass studying and working extra long hours and saving every penny if you think you'll always be poor regardless?

We mock people for being fat and pay little attention to improving infrastructure to promote activity, educating kids about healthy lifestyles, or actually making a healthy lifestyle accessible to someone in a poverty situation (both financially and time-wise).

Maybe we're afraid to admit that maybe we would go down some of those roads ourselves, if we'd led a different life.

Because taking on a system, rather than an individual, is a more daunting task.
 

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Consumption is a prerequisite for Capitalism.
Therefore, obese humans are good Capitalists.

At one time, humans who could not hunt their own food, travel to find it, or spend long hours laboring to grow it didn't eat. Now, doing any of that is difficult if not impossible or otherwise restricted.

Most of you humans and human societies are not rational enough to handle conveniences and technology. The result is perversions in many forms, from new ways of dehumanizing each other to killing each other, or killing yourself.
 

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Consumption is a prerequisite for Capitalism.
Therefore, obese humans are good Capitalists.

At one time, humans who could not hunt their own food, travel to find it, or spend long hours laboring to grow it didn't eat. Now, doing any of that is difficult if not impossible or otherwise restricted.

Most of you humans and human societies are not rational enough to handle conveniences and technology. The result is perversions in many forms, from new ways of dehumanizing each other to killing each other, or killing yourself.
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Well it's why we have the NT overlords to look after the moronic masses. Social darwnisim will reign supreme.

Second of all what I say is that most fat people who think they are beautiful are kidding themselves. That's all.
 
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I don't care if I live til' I'm 50 and don't get laid. I got all the porn I need to satisfy me. I won't talk to any pretty person, and I'll flat out refuse to have sex with them because fat fetishists are beneath me. I know I'm an ugly motherfucker, I have no shame in being a fat bastard. Besides food is the only thing I find to be pleasurable outside of thinking about video games.

You are a disgrace to the name 'Pimpin.' That name should be stripped from you immediately.

If you had any honor you would strip it from yourself.

Here, allow me to direct you to the name change thread.

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33625
 

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my roommate who has weight issues and tries really hard to lose Weight is down about her weight and turns out it's been a struggle her whole life. I've never said one word about her weight to her anyone else, because it's not my place but I did say "I still like you" the point is there's more to a person than their size and you really shouldn't concern or make assumptions about others
 

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fat people often times are just naturally fatter than most.

I'm wierd in the fact that if I don't work out or expend my bottled up stress, I become destructive. So working out is very much a requirement in my life for my own success and my own sanity. Unfortunately many people do not have these motivators and allow themselves to succumb to sedentation, and don't always have a good reason to leave this lifestyle either.
 

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Whatever problems I have with the Fat Acceptance movement, I have to say that obesity isn't really tolerated, especially in women. It bothers me that so many people are eager to place weight, appetite, and self-regulation outside of their locus of control, but at the same time it's their choice and I really won't gain anything by trying to convince them otherwise. And body diversity really doesn't account for the prevalence of obesity and the unprecedented enormity of certain members of the population we find today (many of whom have no medical condition that lead them to weigh as much a grand piano).

Moreover, obesity is a problem that in most cases can be rectified through small changes over a long period of time without many adverse health effects (formerly/currently obese women may be contributing to children who are more prone to sugar addiction and that may lead to more childhood obesity, but the evidence isn't all there yet). It's much less of a health issue than smoking, drug addictions, or alcoholism, which are all more tolerated, imo. And those things can actually effect other people negatively.
 

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This is a thing that is going through my mind for a quite time. Obesity is NOT a comsetic problem, or a beauty problem as a lot of people seem to see it this way. Obesity is a serious health problem and it's still tolerated like nothing happens. When you have an obese kid in the class your parents usually tell you not to make a fun of him, because you could hurt his feelings. But it's totally fine to tell a skinny person, he's skinny. Or it's fine to tell someone who is underweight "you look like anorexic" , but it's not okay to tell an obese kid he's obese...What's wrong?

Well I've long thought that fatty foods should be banned. But then I people will cite "I eat what the fuck I want!", and I'd reply "well yeah, freedom to eat is NOT better than an unhealthy and unproductive society.."
 

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Why do we allow people to be rude and hurtful to others, considering the damage it inflicts upon those other people?
Why do we allow people to underachieve, considering how much they could contribute to society?
Why do we allow people to surgically alter their bodies for cosmetic purposes, considering the amount of trauma it puts on the body and the risk the anaesthesia forms?
Why do we allow people to be religious considering the hate, propaganda an tyranny it has historically spouted?


All for the same reason:

Because people have a right to make THEIR OWN mistakes. And hopefully learn from them at their own pace, in their own time.

And because demanding that they stop doing [insert any of the above including the OP] will not make it so. On the contrary. For every action, there is a reaction.


For that matter, why should the people who demand this of others be allowed to do so when they are so keen on telling others what is not allowed? Just because their particular gripe with others makes them uncomfortable?

Time to join the 'fatties', religious fundamentalists, self-doubters, callous jerks and insecure in the learning circle and deal with your own issue concerning others not addressing their issues to set the example.

Irony is such a sweet thing.
 

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If it forces them to lose weight, meh, who cares..

It might not force them to lose weight though. For a lot of people it's the amount they are eating, not what they are eating. You can easily still be obese by eating excessive amounts of generally healthy foods. Especially if you are eating calorie dense ones like nuts, dried fruit, avocado, etc. With people who have been obese for a substantial amount of time their stomach is stretched and used to a certain amount of food. So, they will constantly feel hunger even if they have consumed an adequate amount of calories.
 

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If it forces them to lose weight, meh, who cares..

Or, if like many people who are overweight that have addictive behaviours surrounding eating, it could lower their self esteem making them more anxious thus triggering them to eat more.



This video made me laugh because my name is Neil; however I have an opposite weight problem, I have to keep myself from being underweight.
 

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Because taking on a system, rather than an individual, is a more daunting task.

Yea. It's easier for people to stick their thumbs in their ears, wiggle their fingers and screech "FATTTTY!" then to actually address the real issue.
 
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Well I've long thought that fatty foods should be banned. But then I people will cite "I eat what the fuck I want!", and I'd reply "well yeah, freedom to eat is NOT better than an unhealthy and unproductive society.."

Instead of banging your head against a wall, maybe you just need to find a society that better reflects the way you think.

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People don't like being made fun of cuz they're fat.

Bitches need to nut up and get thin. Lifestyle change.

But at the same time, people should be more supportive. But not tolerant.
 
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