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    Quote Originally Posted by magnetica View Post
    Being an introvert does not necessarily mean that you possess bad socialization skills.
    Exactly: the quality of your ability to socialize with friends or strangers isn't determined by your introversion, just your practice at it. Unlike muscle reflex, extroverts are not naturally adept at perfect conversation, either. Jung cautioned that these categorizations are measured by energy levels, and by modern brain scans, as areas of the brain more active in some individuals than others. For me personally, I find professional conversations like interviews or paced, polite conversations with a date or elderly far easier than casual or spontaneous conversation with strangers less nerve-wracking because of their levels of predictability. The former is practiced, almost scripted and easier to predict, while the latter might require humor, more eye contact, personal sharing, and unpredictable in outcome - thus draining (parasympathetic responses) for introverts. For someone that might dread tiring socialization, it's far easier to avoid practicing as a skill, and thus far easier to become rusty and avoidant of than making efforts to maintain comfortably. So take small steps to practice: chat briefly with servers or cashiers, greet a passerby while out walking, make polite small talk with coworkers, clients, or superiors; make friends with a stranger's pet, and then a short hello with the owner. It's always easier to have family, friend, or a significant other with you, and in the case it manifests as anxiety - and not to endorse alcoholism - have a shot beforehand for that burst of inhibition. Eventually you won't need a companion to help or the courage from alcohol to take those social steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebris View Post
    This might come as a weird question to ask, as introverts usually do not socialize well enough or are selective about their socialization. But, what would happen if an introvert needed to get good at socializing, or simply by choice of not wanting to be terrible at it? If an introvert accepts that they need to develop their people skills, how would they go about it? What do they think is the best approach? What was the best approach? Introverts, lets hear your answer.


    The premise is wrong. Introverts are fully capable of socializing when they need to. The stereotypical definition that one who's able to socialize fluently is an extrovert is preposterous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrophagus View Post
    The premise is wrong. Introverts are fully capable of socializing when they need to. The stereotypical definition that one who's able to socialize fluently is an extrovert is preposterous.

    This thread is almost a year old (when I first joined), and I am more educated on the introversion and extroversion aspects now. But thanks for reminding me how far ive come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrophagus View Post
    The premise is wrong. Introverts are fully capable of socializing when they need to. The stereotypical definition that one who's able to socialize fluently is an extrovert is preposterous.
    Sometimes I think they spread this stereotype themselves so they do not have to learn any proper social interaction.

    My hair dresser as well as therapist is an introvert. yet she is a very socialized and friendly woman.

    My best friend is also an introvert. When she gets bored she loves to spend time with her friends out of the house and when she's had enough of people, sometimes I wont hear from her for weeks. It's perfectly normal.
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    Now, Rise up and riot 'til the bomb drops
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebris View Post
    This thread is almost a year old (when I first joined), and I am more educated on the introversion and extroversion aspects now. But thanks for reminding me how far ive come.
    Good for you. The discussion about the stereotype remains since it's not of your own making, rather something that persists.
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    Introversion = conservation of energy wrt socializing. Extroversion = expansion of energy wrt socializing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consilience View Post
    Introversion = conservation of energy wrt socializing. Extroversion = expansion of energy wrt socializing.
    Socialising isn't that connected to extroversion, c'mon now.

    It ties into Fe in particular, but extroversion is just an external/objective focus, it can even occur in your own mind. e.g. if you have a primarily verbal train of thought, that is extroverted judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Socialising isn't that connected to extroversion, c'mon now.

    It ties into Fe in particular, but extroversion is just an external/objective focus, it can even occur in your own mind. e.g. if you have a primarily verbal train of thought, that is extroverted judgement.

    dk what else say
    That doesn't negate or contradict what I am saying. Introversion is containment of energy and is more selective about socializing (where the energy is directed) so it doesn't dictate your ability to socialize. I am Fe dom but I am fairly muted in my socialability.
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    I developed conversation-ending skills, mad skillz. I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrophagus View Post
    The premise is wrong. Introverts are fully capable of socializing when they need to. The stereotypical definition that one who's able to socialize fluently is an extrovert is preposterous.
    Introverts do as well as anyone else, but the development of the skills happens differently. They watch, study, and read books. They're probably more reflective about social interaction too. At least, that's how it has been for me. I don't just walk up to people and start blabbering and then wander off to the next person and blabber some more on a continuous cycle. Maybe not all extroverts do that, but some definitely seem to.

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