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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    It's impossible to diagnose anyone with so little information and solely from a second party's perspective who has reasons to have a negative perspective for the subject in question. But are you sure she wasn't substance abusing? The recklessness and disappearances might point to this.
    She meets every hallmark of a psychopath, I know her well enough for that. I mean, it's just blatantly obvious. About 1000 details I didn't bother mentioning. I don't think she is even aware of what she is, though. No substance abuse, other than alcohol occasionally. She is the first confirmed psychopath I've ever met or had relations with in my multiple decades of adulthood. The rarity holds.
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    My aunt (through marriage) stalked my uncle when he was dating another woman. Then she stalked that woman, scared her off, and then magicked herself into prime girlfriend position with my uncle before he could figure out what happened. Prior to meeting my uncle she was a wild child who ran away from home from 14-18 and took up with a biker gang. While dating my uncle, she "found Jesus" somewhere, like on a piece of toast, and became a born again (like 50 times) Christian and got him to join her in some cult.

    They got married, she got pregnant. Baby was born dead. They had a second son, this one alive but with problems. Then a daughter. When the son was 6 she decided to go driving (speeding) in an ice storm and wrapped her car around a telephone pole in a rural area. Son killed instantly. Herself, daughter, and neighbor's kid, ok.

    Had a fourth child to replace dead child, a girl.

    Uncle gets call five years later from her therapist telling him to leave the house ASAP because his wife was coming home to kill him. He finally exits the marriage and tells us all what had been going on for so many years.

    Stillborn son: she threatened suicide when pregnant with first kid if my uncle left her. She hit her stomach and took weird chemicals to punish him. Told him she would threw herself down stairs if he left, and would tell everyone he abused her.
    Car accident: she had had a fight with my uncle the morning of this ice storm. The police were going to charge her but didn't have enough evidence. Told my uncle they suspected she did it on purpose.

    Therapist diagnosis: borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, a host of other things.

    When he was divorcing her she sent a long letter to all of us to tell us "her side" of the story. And then dropped by unannounced to anyone she could find to try and explain in person.

    Creepiest part: when they divorced they had to sell their house because she cleaned out all of the joint bank accounts as a way to blackmail him. It was a 3 bedroom house... Master bedroom, room for the daughters to sleep in together (despite huge age gap) and................... a room, excuse me, shrine to my dead cousin. Everything left the way it had been the morning he died. A couple of years before they divorced they had been sleeping in separate bedrooms because my uncle was afraid of her and leaving her with their daughters. So he slept in the masterbedroom with the door covered by an armoire every night, and she slept.... in the bed of her dead son.

    I can't the millennium falcon fast enough to get away from her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow as White View Post
    My aunt (through marriage) stalked my uncle when he was dating another woman. Then she stalked that woman, scared her off, and then magicked herself into prime girlfriend position with my uncle before he could figure out what happened. Prior to meeting my uncle she was a wild child who ran away from home from 14-18 and took up with a biker gang. While dating my uncle, she "found Jesus" somewhere, like on a piece of toast, and became a born again (like 50 times) Christian and got him to join her in some cult.

    They got married, she got pregnant. Baby was born dead. They had a second son, this one alive but with problems. Then a daughter. When the son was 6 she decided to go driving (speeding) in an ice storm and wrapped her car around a telephone pole in a rural area. Son killed instantly. Herself, daughter, and neighbor's kid, ok.

    Had a fourth child to replace dead child, a girl.

    Uncle gets call five years later from her therapist telling him to leave the house ASAP because his wife was coming home to kill him. He finally exits the marriage and tells us all what had been going on for so many years.

    Stillborn son: she threatened suicide when pregnant with first kid if my uncle left her. She hit her stomach and took weird chemicals to punish him. Told him she would threw herself down stairs if he left, and would tell everyone he abused her.
    Car accident: she had had a fight with my uncle the morning of this ice storm. The police were going to charge her but didn't have enough evidence. Told my uncle they suspected she did it on purpose.

    Therapist diagnosis: borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, a host of other things.

    When he was divorcing her she sent a long letter to all of us to tell us "her side" of the story. And then dropped by unannounced to anyone she could find to try and explain in person.

    Creepiest part: when they divorced they had to sell their house because she cleaned out all of the joint bank accounts as a way to blackmail him. It was a 3 bedroom house... Master bedroom, room for the daughters to sleep in together (despite huge age gap) and................... a room, excuse me, shrine to my dead cousin. Everything left the way it had been the morning he died. A couple of years before they divorced they had been sleeping in separate bedrooms because my uncle was afraid of her and leaving her with their daughters. So he slept in the masterbedroom with the door covered by an armoire every night, and she slept.... in the bed of her dead son.

    I can't the millennium falcon fast enough to get away from her.
    Ho. Lee. Shitttttt. Man, your poor uncle. Heart goes out to him. Mine is nowhere near as bad, but she didn't have borderline. I'm so glad I got out before too much was lost. She definitely wanted to get knocked up and married like right away, which I was not interested in that quick.

    From what I gather the recklessness and impulsivity starts early on as a teenager. The other psychopath I met likes to drive down to the Flint ghetto and go drinking (tiny 12 year old looking white girl). Said someone picked her up once and started carrying her away but some other dudes fought him off. Also said someone started shooting a handgun out the window of a car she was riding in after the bar. My ex liked to race Subaru's down snowmobile trails in the woods at 50 mph. Went with her once. Was terrifying, glad I'm not dead.
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    Not exactly sure if my first girlfriend and one other were psychopaths per se but the first was probably bpd and the fourth crayZ of some variety.

    Edit: Upon doing further research, first girlfriend was definitely BPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    Anyone have any former lovers or family members or other run-ins with people that turned out to be psychopaths?

    glib and superficial charm
    grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
    need for stimulation
    pathological lying
    cunning and manipulativeness
    lack of remorse or guilt
    superficial expression of emotion
    callousness and lack of empathy
    parasitic lifestyle
    poor behavioural controls
    sexual promiscuity
    early behaviour problems
    lack of realistic long-term goals
    impulsive irresponsibility
    failure to accept responsibility for own actions
    many short-term marital relationships
    juvenile delinquency
    revocation of conditional release
    criminal versatility
    Yes. Raised by a psychopathic parent, abused by him for 25 years. I won't go into all of that list, but a few examples...

    GIB AND SUPERFICIAL CHARM
    That guy could be angry, emotionally abusing, logically manipulating, outside in the parking lot of a place and then walk into the public space with a smile on and literally make the entire room laugh and light up.

    GRANDIOSITY
    Always, always, always had to be above everyone. Loses jobs over this, cannot hold one because he cannot handle being beneath a boss in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Always has to be in control, always thinks he can do everything better, thinks he's the best man on the job, the most skilled at anything, the smartest...things like having conversations with professional psychologists he meets while he's out and about and without any formal training and barely any reading, thinks he knows more than them all.

    PARASITIC LIFESTYLE (+MANIPULATION, +OTHERS ON THE LIST)
    Mooches off of others because he cannot hold jobs. Manipulates them into giving him their resources, even if it is detrimental to them, takes advantage of their kindness. For example, when I was 19 he manipulated me into being isolated from social contacts and trusting him...ONLY him. By the time I was 20, I was in college as a psychology major and working an undergrad job. He manipulated me into thinking that psychology was fake and psychologists were manipulative, and only after your paychecks, and all of the shit I was studying was inaccurate and they didn't know what they were talking about; then, his abuse got so bad that my grades were suffering because I didn't have time to do homework or go over any of my materials, and I was struggling to focus while I was in school...so I left with the intentions of returning when I could focus on my school more. He then convinced me to first help him work his odd jobs / side jobs (many of which he did illegally, such as electric, which he had 0 training in, but since he's so grandiose he would just think he knows it all and can do it all just fine...) meanwhile I was making no money myself off of it myself. Later on I got a different job, as I'd lost the other in between all of this time, and he manipulated me into giving him thousands of dollars, almost everything I was earning. I paid off the child support he owed, which should have gone toward supporting me earlier in my teen years, and then I had so little money left for myself that I was unable to provide for myself sufficiently and lost my car when it broke down and I couldn't repair it, which also meant I lost the job I had because I had to use my car to perform the job, but basically I got hours cut and moved to a different position that paid less. I ended up getting a second job, which he would transport me to and from, but then he was abusing me emotionally/mentally all the way there and back, and sometimes his abuse would make me late because he lacked any consideration for my time and resources, only cared about his own. He would also then gaslight, etc. and manipulate me into thinking that it was my own fault I was late, not his. I was still crying my eyes out uncontrollably because of all of his abusive anger, frustration, and rage, by the time I arrived to work, so I would walk in late that way and be angry or in a shitty mood all the time, which impacted my socialization with coworkers and bosses. The lateness ended up getting me fired in the end...but until then, he was taking all of the money that I made from that job also, for his bills and needs, and manipulated me using warped logic into thinking I was selfish, etc. if I didn't, and basically that it was fair to give it to him and I kind of owed it to him somehow. In hindsight I have no idea how I actually got taken advantage of, all I can say is I'm not the only one, he feeds on every woman he meets the same way, and they all fall for the shit too somehow. They are very good at logical manipulation. Mine liked to throw in criticisms of my logic, convince me I was too logically incompetent to "find my way out of a wet paper bag," he told me, and added a ton of emotional invalidation to the mix...which basically, as a combination, left me in a place where he was always in the right and his logic triumphed over all things.


    I still was unable to provide for my own needs because he was taking everything I had from working 2 jobs. Meanwhile, he was going into my other job and getting in peoples' faces and intimidating them deliberately to act "protective" of me and feed to his own grandiosity while feeding me lies about how coworkers were toward me in order to keep me socially isolated. The "protective" bit where he was getting in peoples' faces and snarling, threatening, etc. was probably also to keep me socially isolated.

    Oh, and the entire time he was doing all of this, he had me convinced that I was the horrible piece of shit he was helping and teaching ("repgrogramming my brain" as he himself called it), when actually what he was doing was abusing.

    If I called him out on his shit he'd get angry and defensive, start using warped logic, or he'd pull out crocodile tears and say "thanks for judging me" to make me feel guilty.


    There is a LOT of shit behind all of that list and it all ties in together. He has literally every single thing on that list. All of them. If I tried to go into them all this post would be entirely too long and it would probably take me several days to write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    She meets every hallmark of a psychopath, I know her well enough for that. I mean, it's just blatantly obvious. About 1000 details I didn't bother mentioning. I don't think she is even aware of what she is, though. No substance abuse, other than alcohol occasionally. She is the first confirmed psychopath I've ever met or had relations with in my multiple decades of adulthood. The rarity holds.
    Interesting. Mine has some vague idea. Says he's always been different, and that emotionally he's like a machine, and how as a kid people used to comment on that. He refers to himself as a high-functioning sociopath...which he doesn't realize is basically the same thing as a psychopath because they have the added superficial charm, etc.

    Last time I talked to him he said he wishes there was some book that could teach him how to manipulate people according to personality type. Sometimes I'm honestly extremely glad typology is not scientifically proven or more accurate. I think that ambiguity protects people.


    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    Ho. Lee. Shitttttt. Man, your poor uncle. Heart goes out to him. Mine is nowhere near as bad, but she didn't have borderline. I'm so glad I got out before too much was lost. She definitely wanted to get knocked up and married like right away, which I was not interested in that quick.

    From what I gather the recklessness and impulsivity starts early on as a teenager. The other psychopath I met likes to drive down to the Flint ghetto and go drinking (tiny 12 year old looking white girl). Said someone picked her up once and started carrying her away but some other dudes fought him off. Also said someone started shooting a handgun out the window of a car she was riding in after the bar. My ex liked to race Subaru's down snowmobile trails in the woods at 50 mph. Went with her once. Was terrifying, glad I'm not dead.
    Borderline alone is not what created that vast difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    I'm thoroughly convinced she's a psychopath, but there was one event that stands out to me that doesn't quite add up- though I'm sure it does somehow. We were engaged in makeup sex after one of her disappearances and she had a particularly strong orgasm. She collapsed on top of me sobbing. Eventually it turned into laughter and she declared aloud "You are so fucked! You're stuck with me forever." When I asked her what she was crying about, she said she felt a sudden terrible sadness at how awful she was towards me and how bad she squandered my affections, and that the sudden orgasmic release must have pushed all of those feelings out of her. Was this likely a lie? Why the tears?

    I also caught her crying during the end of Titanic, and maybe one other movie I forced her to watch against her will. Is this empathy chosen to be turned on briefly? I can't quite reconcile it with what I currently know of psychopathy.
    My dad cried and seemed caring in various ways a lot of times. Even still, I'm left with doubts and questions in some things, but ultimately that's a generic part of a psychopath's game; but many of his actions contradict what appear to be acts, and I believe it was just part of his manipulation. If she really was a psychopath it was probably just saying shit to keep you hooked.

    I will note that a lot of his emotions always seem oddly out of place...like, over the top, as though he's trying too hard.
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    Honestly there are some traits in this list that I can relate to (like I'm a confident person and I've gotta admit I've got a reasonably high opinion of myself or I can be impulsive) but I never thought about killing anyone yet so I don't think I'm a psychopath lol
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    There are many serious psychological terms that get thrown around a lot in place of describing someone as basically 'mean' or 'self-centered' or a basic 'jerk'.

    A friend was telling me about a concerning situation that would quality for sociopathic/psychopathic levels of behavior - not just being mean and rejecting. There is a man who was in an accident last summer that left him a quadriplegic. His wife is a nurse and is divorcing him, taking all of his money, drained all of his accounts, and wants him to pay her alimony. This woman won't bring this man food to eat. My friend was at their house and she came home providing him nothing to eat, and tossed two take out dinners onto the counter for her children. The man had nothing to eat for at least 24 hours. She screams at him in his wheelchair and people are concerned for his life. THAT'S a PSYCHOPATH.

    I see this thread, but you are actually on my ignore list for crossing the line in some of your posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Blue View Post
    Primary it is a learning disability and the majority of psychopaths are below average intelligence. This leaves a huge gulf between the expectation of what psychopaths are capable of and what they are actually capable of. The t.v hyped psychopath is really very few and far between. Much like the autistic savant.
    This is actually false. There is no statistically significant difference between the average population and that of a psychopath in terms of intelligence. The only statistically significant difference was in interpersonal facets.

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