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    Quote Originally Posted by agentwashington View Post
    I'm not really personally emotionally invested in rousseau, it's just that he's very influential, and people refer to his work a lot.
    Without even checking I can tell that Rousseau was a big influence on Marx, another despicable man - who impregnated and then threw his maid on the street to avoid embarassement and was a parasite and a terrible father and man his whole life.
    Is it really surprising that these two men are at the root of the most murderous political philosophy to ever have been born?

    In my view marx and to a lesser extent rousseau should be considered as avatars of immorality and evil amongst the likes of Hitler, Lenin, Staline or Ted Bundy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Without even checking I can tell that Rousseau was a big influence on Marx, another despicable man - who impregnated and then threw his maid on the street to avoid embarassement and was a parasite and a terrible father and man his whole life.
    Is it really surprising that these two men are at the root of the most murderous political philosophy to ever have been born?

    In my view marx and to a lesser extent rousseau should be considered as avatars of immorality and evil amongst the likes of Hitler, or Ted Bundy.
    Uh, thanks for the imput.
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    It'd be interesting to see the political break-up of these subjects. I'm particularly interested in how libertarians would behave under these circumstances since we are the most rational types; I don't think I'd respond to peer pressure or stupid demands from authority, but I'd definitely push the buttons if I thought it was funny.
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    Othello anyone? This show is made for Iago.

    Sounds interesting but without watching the show I would say yes.
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    I've heard a lot of buzz about this, but I've put off watching it because the premise combined with its format doesn't quite sit right with me. I think I will give it a go, though.

    I think in general people underestimate their susceptibility to manipulation and coercion.

    If you're interested in these themes, there's another Netflix documentary series called The Confession Tapes, which I'd recommend. The series looks at cases in which people have given false confessions to murder, and looks at the circumstances under which they were given, almost always involving coercive interrogation tactics by police. It's pretty alarming stuff. It's also really sad that in most of the cases, the only evidence supporting their guilt was their confession tape. Even when a jury is presented with solid reasons for why they gave the false confession, along with other evidence making their involvement in the crime seem implausible, they will often stick with a guilty verdict, due to their own inability to understand how anyone could be driven to give a false confession. Tldr; don't answer questions, demand a lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agentwashington View Post
    I'm just going to quote this one because the rest are quite on point, but I don't care to differentiate between 'weak' and 'bad', when the end results are the same. Is this part about be, because of what I specifically wrote earlier in the thread?
    I had not read any of the comments in this thread when I posted, so no, Definitely not about you or singling anyone out really my post was entirely about how we are all part of this. We all have an impression that "I would never.." but push comes to shove, most of us already Have and likely would again. All I'm saying is, it is easy as hell to Say you would do something, but different to do something. And perhaps it is less useful to make a judgment call than it is to try to think of all the scenarios that would freeze you up and use it as a mental exercise, rather than dismissing it with what you believe the you-inside-of-you would do.
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    I’ll watch this when I get home tomorrow but this looks intriguing on many levels. I wonder just how flexible an average human being’s empathy may shift depending on circumstances and rewards such as social bravado. Thank you, @Forever, I’ll write a more in depth review this week. (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    It'd be interesting to see the political break-up of these subjects. I'm particularly interested in how libertarians would behave under these circumstances since we are the most rational types; I don't think I'd respond to peer pressure or stupid demands from authority, but I'd definitely push the buttons if I thought it was funny.
    That'd be my rationale afterwards. "I murdered that guy ironically"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nørrsken View Post
    I’ll watch this when I get home tomorrow but this looks intriguing on many levels. I wonder just how flexible an average human being’s empathy may shift depending on circumstances and rewards such as social bravado. Thank you, @Forever, I’ll write a more in depth review this week. (:
    It's been 10 days Nørsky. What u think?
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