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    I like the artist and what it represents. Good find.

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    I think it's important to note that what the mental illness represents in not only this case but in a more substantiated way, is that a mental illness really is a sub personality within the psyche. Many things that make up our personalities and traits can very well be treated like sub personalities that essentially have a perspective and motivation of their own. Jordan Peterson talks a bit about this in some of his lectures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    I think it's important to note that what the mental illness represents in not only this case but in a more substantiated way, is that a mental illness really is a sub personality within the psyche. Many things that make up our personalities and traits can very well be treated like sub personalities that essentially have a perspective and motivation of their own. Jordan Peterson talks a bit about this in some of his lectures.
    I have seen some clips with Jordan Peterson when he mentions sub personalities, but I have not explored it further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    I have seen some clips with Jordan Peterson when he mentions sub personalities, but I have not explored it further.
    You know, it's something Jung talked about as well..

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    I dont like this. It feels like they are trivializing serious illnesses in stretches to be clever and therefore not doing justice to how tough these things can be.

    The bipolar one with the ‘infuencing everyone around them’

    Great. Way to remind me that because of my illness I suck and CAN hurt people around me. One of the top things I struggle with when it comes to that just sort of thrown in there to add to the flavor.

    And the social anxiety one ‘living out ordinary lives which they can never have’- again, wonderful. As if people with social anxiety dont already feel different enough socially- now they get reminded of a big fear that they will NEVER get past that.

    I dunno. I dont like these. Im not enraged by these- but they, and things like this, tend to be realy depressing to me. But if they help someone I suppose, more power to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    I dont like this. It feels like they are trivializing serious illnesses in stretches to be clever and therefore not doing justice to how tough these things can be.

    The bipolar one with the ‘infuencing everyone around them’

    Great. Way to remind me that because of my illness I suck and CAN hurt people around me. One of the top things I struggle with when it comes to that just sort of thrown in there to add to the flavor.

    And the social anxiety one ‘living out ordinary lives which they can never have’- again, wonderful. As if people with social anxiety dont already feel different enough socially- now they get reminded of a big fear that they will NEVER get past that.

    I dunno. I dont like these. Im not enraged by these- but they, and things like this, tend to be realy depressing to me. But if they help someone I suppose, more power to them.
    Do you think there is a way to describe the mental illness states so "healthy" individuals can get an understanding or do you think they can never grasp it?

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    This is unhelpful. People with mental illnesses aren't monsters but they can cause a lot of unwitting damage. It distracts from the need to fund ongoing help for them, including but not exclusive to, providing confined care for incurable psychopaths and violent offenders who refuse their meds. Mental health care should be perceived in the same manner as physical health care. Are people monsters if they suffer from diabetes or cancer?

    IMO, this debate is all about cost. The wealthy don't want to pay more taxes to care for them, whether as maintenance for outpatients, inpatients and research. The sad part is that everyone around people with unhelped mental health issues suffer too and preventative care helps everyone, including the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    Do you think there is a way to describe the mental illness states so "healthy" individuals can get an understanding or do you think they can never grasp it?
    Yes. I think there are tons of descriptions out there of mental illness that ARE closer to what people actually experience.

    There are plenty of sites out there where people who have these illnesses might frequent, and people at these places who- some- would probably be able to give better descriptions of these illnesses to people who ASK.

    I think asking is the best way for people to learn. And in order to get people to share, things like this, where illnesses are compared to monsters, is stigmatizing, and works to do the exact opposite of making people comfortable to discuss what these things REALLY are

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    I'm strongly against viewing mental illness as an entirely separate entity. However, the illustrator can do whatever art project they want and I support their right to express their perspective in this way. I don't think you need direct experience with something to be allowed to have a perspective on it. This sort of thing definitely isn't my cup of tea though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    Yes. I think there are tons of descriptions out there of mental illness that ARE closer to what people actually experience.

    There are plenty of sites out there where people who have these illnesses might frequent, and people at these places who- some- would probably be able to give better descriptions of these illnesses to people who ASK.

    I think asking is the best way for people to learn. And in order to get people to share, things like this, where illnesses are compared to monsters, is stigmatizing, and works to do the exact opposite of making people comfortable to discuss what these things REALLY are
    Hmm

    I kind of thought it would be rude to ask.

    Do you care to share your experience?

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