Hah, well, I can't fault you for bringing up MBTI on an MBTI board. It's an interesting way to frame my point of view, Fi vs Te. And there would seem to be something to be contributed to the subject given the described subjective nature of Fi and the objective nature of Te.
Not only that, but you are a self-proclaimed ENFP.
So the dynamics I described would reflect your psychological dynamics, if you are indeed an ENFP.
Considering they were your views I was dissecting, this would certainly be relevant.
But, it's pretty reductionist and also shaky reasoning to describe Te-doms/secondaries as essentially objective and Fi-doms/secondaries as essentially subjective.
I don't disagree.
But I thought from my post, and from my long history here, it was rather obvious that I wasn't taking, and don't take, that position in a reductionistic nor shaky manner.
First of all, we aren't essentially our judging functions, and what those functions do contribute to our cognition is in concert with other function which brings balancing forces into the mix to produce a fully operating human being.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was describing with my explanation of one aspect of what is required for psychological development in TJs and FPs.
There are obviously others as well - some, non-typological, and some depending on exactly which types they are.
And even if we were characterized by our lead function, It could easily be claimed that Ne as a primary function is way more objective than Te as a primary function, given its predilection to accept incoming information as is like an information slut.
What you're describing there is actually Se.
Ne doesn't take information in "as is" - it takes in "how it could be".
The point about perceiving functions being more "objective" than judging functions, well, I've written about this extensively.
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/private-blogs/33710-spake-zarathustra-7.html#post1450136
You'll find in that post (and many others I've written) from several years ago, that, long story short, there are three ways of thinking about objectivity vs subjectivity in typology:
Introverted vs Extroverted
Judging vs Perceiving
Feeling vs Thinking
You could say that Ne is better at seeing (a certain type) reality, Te is better at manipulating it. But I won't really assert these claims, I'm not really interested in them at the moment.
Or you could say Te is better at judging what is true.
While Ne is better at perceiving many different possibilities.
What I'm talking about here perhaps has some connection with Fi, and if it elevates it, it's not my intention. But what I see, in every type, every human, is that we all operate, using Te/Fi/whatever based on unverifiable subjective assumptions, some are biological, some are learned, indoctrinated or through experience. The most primal example of a subjective bias is, "Life is worth living, and I'm worth the resources I take". There's no way this can be reasoned as being true, we can understand why we think this, but there's no Objective calculus that can validate this belief. Some other fun ones are, "Every man is equal to me", or "My group of people are worth more than your group of people." This subjectivity is more than just a cognitive slant, it's what drives us and motivates us, reasoning and objectivity is a slave to this. This is where ideology, what's valued and a framework to justify it and promote those values, attaches.
Fair enough.
But you
are over-elevating Fi here.
Which is a symptom of the postmodern mindset.
Postmodernism is basically NFPism.
No Te'er is
completely free of it.
Some might be completely enslaved by it.
As I pointed to in my original post: if they have not developed, if they have not "become wise", then they have not learned to recgonize how unconscious Fi seeps into, even underpins, their judgments.
But if they have become wise, if they have developed, then they have done this.
It still must constantly be beat back, tho, like a demon would.
Any Te'er may be more or less free of it, at any moment.
Even for extended periods of time.
Years, decades, lives, even.
As can any other type.
It's actually more about wisdom than type.
What needs to be overcome for each type is a bit different, tho.