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being social leads to longer life and better health

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I don't know what the book gets into but I do think a lot gets lost without personal contact. Humor, nuance, fleeting expressions all builds a fuller picture to learning another.
 

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Another case of quality vs. quantity?
 

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I was going to try to post something useful, but my only reply is: no shit, Sherlock. We're social animals.
 

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That's actually true. But for me too much being social isn't good. I need to introspect everyday
 

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I don't know what the book gets into but I do think a lot gets lost without personal contact. Humor, nuance, fleeting expressions all builds a fuller picture to learning another.

The introduction, which is what I've read so far, tells a tale about a guy who because of the numerous and deep face to face relationships found a donar kidney from a stranger following his contracting of a genetically inherited kidney disease, otherwise he would have been dead, the book says that there is a statistical chance of 1 in 3000 that you will have a stranger volunteer to give you a kidney, he had four seperate offers.

Although that is a kind of exchange theory thing and the author says that they were going to elaborate on social neuroscience and it found that so called "frivolous" contact, such as meeting for coffee once a week or to play cards, was likely to increase your longevity as much as taking beta blockers or giving up smoking, which seems pretty major.

My brother talked to me this morning though about some tensions between him and his friends arising from invites to social gatherings and attempts to get people to come out and socialise resulting in last minute cancellations and frustrations like that, which I guess could be a down side, I've not read yet much about the quality of the social face to face interaction as opposed to the interaction happening per se.

Which is something that I reflect on quite a lot during my more extrovert phases, I may want to have more face to face contact or socialise more but in the general run of things, particularly given my home town, there are a lot of very significant barriers and obstacles to the same, ie intelligence, social background, community background and the like.
 

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^ Ok. I understand more. After I went to school and graduated I couldn't find a job. Looked for two years then sort of placed it on the back burner. I go to a gym and while not a lot of talking gets done, the regulars do become friendly enough to chat during rest periods.

On one of these chats, the person asked basic questions where I worked, what I did and I told him. Turned out his cousin ran a race shop 30 miles away. That's how I got my interview and how I got my first job in the industry.

Random.
 

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The introduction, which is what I've read so far, tells a tale about a guy who because of the numerous and deep face to face relationships found a donar kidney from a stranger following his contracting of a genetically inherited kidney disease, otherwise he would have been dead, the book says that there is a statistical chance of 1 in 3000 that you will have a stranger volunteer to give you a kidney, he had four seperate offers.

Although that is a kind of exchange theory thing and the author says that they were going to elaborate on social neuroscience and it found that so called "frivolous" contact, such as meeting for coffee once a week or to play cards, was likely to increase your longevity as much as taking beta blockers or giving up smoking, which seems pretty major.

My brother talked to me this morning though about some tensions between him and his friends arising from invites to social gatherings and attempts to get people to come out and socialise resulting in last minute cancellations and frustrations like that, which I guess could be a down side, I've not read yet much about the quality of the social face to face interaction as opposed to the interaction happening per se.

Which is something that I reflect on quite a lot during my more extrovert phases, I may want to have more face to face contact or socialise more but in the general run of things, particularly given my home town, there are a lot of very significant barriers and obstacles to the same, ie intelligence, social background, community background and the like.

“It is better to be alone than in bad company.”
— George Washington
 

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“It is better to be alone than in bad company.”
— George Washington
True. Based on experience.

I was social before and enjoy socializing a lot until i bumped with the bad company. It made me worse.

Lesson learned: better to be alone than to be with a bad company.

It's not really about being extrovert or introvert..

It's choosing what's better for you.

And it's okay to be alone, because who gives a fuck?

Or if you don't feel like being alone and it makes you conscious then try to be more friendly and be happy. Or if you feel like you're just pleasing people and ofcourse you cannot really please anyone and noone i really interesting that much, choose not to give a fuck and be yourself and enjoy life. XD

I mean don't depend on anyone. When i always do that, people start coming at me..

When i tried pleasing people i feel frustrated because i cannot please them.

So i didn't give a fuck anymore and right friends come along.
 

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Another case of quality vs. quantity?

Right. I mean, I like milk but if I drink a whole gallon at one sitting, I'm going to regret it. Kind of how socializing with anyone with a pulse is probably a less than good idea for me.
 

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There may be a few, basic instinctual social needs that humans posses, but I think the majority of the specifics of socialization are very individualized. I don't think you can tell all of humanity what they need socially. Some people have chosen to live in complete isolation like a hermit, and others interact with several people daily. You can say just about anything about what people "should" do socially, and it will apply to some people and not to others. It doesn't make sense to agree or disagree with the premise.

Edit: I would say that I have those feelings about nature. I have a physical, emotional, and psychological need to see, feel, hear, and be immersed in nature, surrounded by plants, being able to look a wild animal in the eyes. If I am only around people in the city my soul withers away. Face-to-face interaction with a very few people I care about is positive, but just lots of people make me sick. It's the inability to be in the truth of nature that I experience probably similarly to what she described for human contact. There is also a bunch of research that says being in nature makes you more healthy, but I don't think it applies to everyone equally any moreso than the human socialization assumptions do.
Immerse Yourself in a Forest for Better Health - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
 

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There may be a few, basic instinctual social needs that humans posses, but I think the majority of the specifics of socialization are very individualized. I don't think you can tell all of humanity what they need socially. Some people have chosen to live in complete isolation like a hermit, and others interact with several people daily. You can say just about anything about what people "should" do socially, and it will apply to some people and not to others. It doesn't make sense to agree or disagree with the premise.

Edit: I would say that I have those feelings about nature. I have a physical, emotional, and psychological need to see, feel, hear, and be immersed in nature, surrounded by plants, being able to look a wild animal in the eyes. If I am only around people in the city my soul withers away. Face-to-face interaction with a very few people I care about is positive, but just lots of people make me sick. It's the inability to be in the truth of nature that I experience probably similarly to what she described for human contact. There is also a bunch of research that says being in nature makes you more healthy, but I don't think it applies to everyone equally any moreso than the human socialization assumptions do.
Immerse Yourself in a Forest for Better Health - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
I love nature more too. XD

City life stresses me out! XD

It's like there's no peace around. No serenity. XD

Strangers everywhere.

I love nature and i wanna be one with nature..

I'm actually thinking 💭 i wanna live with nature in the long term..
 
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