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    Quote Originally Posted by Polka View Post
    Narcissism has zero public utility for human evolution.

    It's the reason why some nations advance and some fail.
    Arguably, neither does music.

    Of course human utility is different to evolutionary utility. Human utility seeks efficiency, in judgement of the surroundings, evolutionary utility (as far as we understand) simply uses what works, regardless of the smoothness of the method & form.

    This is the stark contrast of technologically modern societies; more connected with more information at our disposal, yet less able to use and understand that information and less able to make connections.

    The drive to remove what is considered irrelevant in pursuit of self-insistent activities, whose only reason for existing is to provide motion for existence. We've created bastions of self-contained human utility, but we have emptied them of the evolutionary form.

    And the important question is: Why did evolutionary utility give rise to human utility? Which seeks to isolate and observe the former as if it were separate and creates fortresses of civilization in order to pretend that it is.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.
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    I thought Mole was back there for a moment, he's disappeared, so has Ceecee, a couple of others besides but I cant recall their usernames (they change all the time and stuff) but I recall their personalities.

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