• You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to additional post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), view blogs, respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today! Just click here to register. You should turn your Ad Blocker off for this site or certain features may not work properly. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us by clicking here.

How do you deal with people who mistake affluence for intelligence?

boomslang

friendly and accessible
Joined
Sep 24, 2014
Messages
203
Enneagram
8w9
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
How does this affect you (beyond say, pride)?
 
Joined
Mar 2, 2016
Messages
625
How does this affect you (beyond say, pride)?

Sometimes you wish to change/alter their opinions, but they tend not to listen because they only trust information from "official" sources affluence can be a signal that lends credibility to a source for such people.
 

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

Two-Headed Boy
Joined
Jul 24, 2008
Messages
19,587
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Isn't this pretty much an issue with society as a whole, not just individuals?
 

boomslang

friendly and accessible
Joined
Sep 24, 2014
Messages
203
Enneagram
8w9
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Sometimes you wish to change/alter their opinions, but they tend not to listen because they only trust information from "official" sources affluence can be a signal that lends credibility to a source for such people.

Don't waste your time. Life is too short.
 

ceecee

Coolatta® Enjoyer
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
15,913
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
8w9
Sometimes you wish to change/alter their opinions, but they tend not to listen because they only trust information from "official" sources affluence can be a signal that lends credibility to a source for such people.

Right. They don't listen. So I don't deal with them, I don't know why anyone would, knowing this going in.
 
Joined
Mar 2, 2016
Messages
625
Right. They don't listen. So I don't deal with them, I don't know why anyone would, knowing this going in.

What if it is an employer or someone who is using some other kind of leverage to try to coerce you and you wish to explain, but in a tactful way?
 

ceecee

Coolatta® Enjoyer
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
15,913
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
8w9
What if it is an employer or someone who is using some other kind of leverage to try to coerce you and you wish to explain, but in a tactful way?

Then do it tactfully. Without more specifics, I can't tell you what I would say.
 
Last edited:

geedoenfj

The more you know..
Joined
Oct 6, 2015
Messages
3,347
MBTI Type
ENFJ
Enneagram
6w7
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
I don't waste my time with them
 

Reborn Relic

Damn American Cowboy
Joined
Dec 31, 2015
Messages
555
MBTI Type
INTP
I mean my first thought would be "show, don't tell". If you've got an intelligent idea, then you can go through all the steps that affluent people have gone through to verify it. You probably don't have the ability to conduct your own research, of course, but you can find the research of others and you can poke holes in the research of people you disagree with.

However, that might only work with people who were evaluating things based on the actual content of the research to begin with. If they aren't, you might have to Socratic method them a bit, ask them what they think makes 90% of scientists so special. You might also have to dig into the emotional motivations for their stubbornness.. Many people have invested a good bit of their identities into the way they think and believe, and so would need to develop a circle of friends that don't connect to such ideas or that are more intellectually open in order to feel safe changing their ideas. Some people have their own emotional experiences that have fixed their beliefs on a topic (the families of black people killed by police aren't going to be easy to convince that cops aren't racist, for instance), so in their case you may want to expose them to new and different horrific shit to literally blast their minds open--going back to the parenthetical about families, maybe show some graphic footage of blacks being killed by other blacks, or take them through the real life and decisions of a police officer with a video documentary or by getting them and a police officer to become friends or something. Shit like that.

Basically, understand why they think the way they do, and meet them there. Is my guess.
 

Norrsken

self murderer
Joined
Nov 27, 2015
Messages
3,633
MBTI Type
ENFJ
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
tumblr_inline_mn0ve7cywG1qz4rgp.gif

Do this with your source.
 

prplchknz

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 11, 2007
Messages
34,397
MBTI Type
yupp
it usually doesn't bother me unless they're like i'm a genius hurr hurr hurr. and it's like no you're not i'm smarter than you and i'm not a genius so if i am smarter than you and i'm not a genius then you can't be either.
 
Top