Is it possible to have an event hurt you so badly you neve fully recover?

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I stumbled across this article about terrorism dry and how it has effected people's lives throughout the world and how this one man in particular in Canada who lost his mom oversees to a bombing/air strike that happened over in India or something and the fact that even though it happened when he was 13 it still deeply effects him as a 38 year old relatively successful adult male.

What usually does the "effect" entail, anyway?

I was sort of startled and wondered if it will be like that for me, as I lost my father when I was in my teens and it still seems to effect in some form or another, like it's cast some shadow over my life and left some kind of an emptiness and drastically changed everything I thought I knew. I don't think it was just death, it was just the whole scenario and situation around it...

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder

 

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Yes, it's easy to label everything under blanket terms.

"just the facts, Ma'am"

GuessImjustdamagedgoods. Anyway, sometimes I wonder if the amount of pain you feel over losing someone is equal to the amount you loved them.

 

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In my experience, the emotional charge fades, but it's not so much about time itself, definitely not 'degree of love', but focused attention that keeps the vibration active. It's also about approach, amongst many other things. When remembering someone you loved and lost, you will create a very different experience for yourself by focusing on the love, or the loss. One can be an exquisite place, of acceptance, nurturance, connection, viewed through appreciative lens. The other, well...it speaks for itself. Painful, when viewed through 'lack'. I know it's difficult to isolate the two.

 

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In my experience, the emotional charge fades, but it's not so much about time itself, definitely not 'degree of love', but focused attention that keeps the vibration active. It's also about approach, amongst many other things. When remembering someone you loved and lost, you will create a very different experience for yourself by focusing on the love, or the loss. One can be an exquisite place, of acceptance, nurturance, connection, viewed through appreciative lens. The other, well...it speaks for itself. Painful, when viewed through 'lack'. I know it's difficult to isolate the two.

I don't know, I think it's a bit like a backwords way of describing emotional repression. It's convenient or easy to tell people that there feelings are just minor annoyances and nothing more or less.

There's totally dwelling, and then there's just generally being emotionally hurt or effected by something and it having a real effect on who you are or how you feel and think; and even then, if it's just dwelling, what is causing you to want to dwell in the first place? probably more feelings that, often have to do in relation to external circumstances that are not compatible with you or your nature, perhaps?

 

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Omg, in replying again to the Wiki article posted above about PTSD, it is so obviously god damn biased.

What is this? claiming that in most cases, hispanic and black soldiers are more likely to experience PTSD? in what way, exactly?
"The racial similarity between Hispanic and Vietnamese soldiers, and the discrimination Hispanic soldiers faced from their own military, made it difficult for Hispanic soldiers to dehumanize their enemy. Hispanic veterans who reported experiencing racial discrimination during their service displayed more symptoms of PTSD than Hispanic veterans who did not.[3"


Such B.S.

 

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Omg, in replying again to the Wiki article posted above about PTSD, it is so obviously god damn biased.

What is this? claiming that in most cases, hispanic and black soldiers are more likely to experience PTSD? in what way, exactly?
"The racial similarity between Hispanic and Vietnamese soldiers, and the discrimination Hispanic soldiers faced from their own military, made it difficult for Hispanic soldiers to dehumanize their enemy. Hispanic veterans who reported experiencing racial discrimination during their service displayed more symptoms of PTSD than Hispanic veterans who did not.[3"


Such B.S.

The research disagrees with your opinion.

 

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The research disagrees with your opinion.

The obviously racially prejudiced and biased "research" information? oh yeah, like scientists and researchers never have any of their own agenda's or slanted world views on matters. Scientists are free from all such matters trite human affairs and short-comings.

Why should anyone blindly agree with what scientists say? or just because something is written and termed that? it's pretty much like, burn the heretics against the 'scientific' gospel, right?

blah. That's all I'm going to say on that subjective.

 

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The obviously racially prejudiced and biased "research" information? oh yeah, like scientists and researchers never have any of their own agenda's or slanted world views on matters.

Decades worth of peer reviewed data, research, clinical data, and successful treatment > your opinion

Good scientists and researchers are not clouded by bias's that they might have, and the droves of research and information on PTSD is so massive that any biases that might be in it will be diluted to meaninglessness by the aggragate information.

 

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Omg, in replying again to the Wiki article posted above about PTSD, it is so obviously god damn biased.

What is this? claiming that in most cases, hispanic and black soldiers are more likely to experience PTSD? in what way, exactly?
"The racial similarity between Hispanic and Vietnamese soldiers, and the discrimination Hispanic soldiers faced from their own military, made it difficult for Hispanic soldiers to dehumanize their enemy. Hispanic veterans who reported experiencing racial discrimination during their service displayed more symptoms of PTSD than Hispanic veterans who did not.[3"


Such B.S.

I love people who ask for advice or discussion on a topic and go over the top hostile when they hear info they don't like or agree with.

Didn't you start this thread posing a question about the effects of a traumatic event on a person and then your own mental state due to a traumatic event? Not everyone who experiences trauma has PTSD but you would need a professional to find that out about yourself.

 

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to answer your question in the title, yes

 

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I love people who ask for advice or discussion on a topic and go over the top hostile when they hear info they don't like or agree with.

Didn't you start this thread posing a question about the effects of a traumatic event on a person and then your own mental state due to a traumatic event? Not everyone who experiences trauma has PTSD but you would need a professional to find that out about yourself.

Um, are you sure about that? maybe you're the one who is jumping off into hostile territory in regards to information they don't agree with. Isn't that why you're replying to me? I mean, even then, what's so bad about disagreeing with things, people do it all the time don't they? I think it's a pretty natural and that's what you're doing to me right now. Are you saying I'm not entitled or allowed have my own opinions?

Anyway no, it had nothing to do with anything involving "trauma" just that, if things that have a strong emotional effect on a person can last for a long time or be carried with someone their whole life.

But of course, let's get this straight, humanity has reached the pinnacle of information and understanding in all ways and there is no crevice or possible area that we have not yet completely understood in every possible way. What's there to even figure out, right? why even bother. I don't know.


All this debating for all you debaters, just makes you as bad as compulsive masturbators; because that's what this all is, pornography for the mind.

 

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I was sort of startled and wondered if it will be like that for me, as I lost my father when I was in my teens and it still seems to effect in some form or another, like it's cast some shadow over my life and left some kind of an emptiness and drastically changed everything I thought I knew. I don't think it was just death, it was just the whole scenario and situation around it...

Check into information about unresolved grief or complicated grief. Unresolved grief is cumulatively negative so its important to pay attention to this. Some people need professional help to address it. This is a pretty good video that might explain some things.

 

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This appears to be analogous to the philosophical question (might be paraphrasing here):

Can God create an object that is too heavy for Him to lift?

My answer is a theoretical no. But by yourself, I might say yes.

 

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So yes, I suppose maybe I posted this in the wrong forum, my bad.

Maybe it's to personal for me to talk about openly.

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This appears to be analogous to the philosophical question (might be paraphrasing here):

Can God create an object that is too heavy for Him to lift?

My answer is a theoretical no. But by yourself, I might say yes.

From a Christian perspective?

 

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So yes, I suppose maybe I posted this in the wrong forum, my bad.

Maybe it's to personal for me to talk about openly.

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From a Christian perspective?

I've been very much getting into spirituality (not Christian mind you), I think there are some things we cannot comprehend easily of the universe. If we are all part of the universe how is there something so powerful we cannot handle? Given your beliefs you may disagree.

Food for thought.

It might've been better had you posed this question under Philosophy & Spirituality, because putting in a General Psychology sub-forum kind of gears you towards mainstream psychological thought which is dominated by empirialistic philosophy as it attempts to imitate the hard/physical sciences.

So the previous responses are definitely worth a hearing if that's what you're looking for under a modern psychological context.

 

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So grief (sad or otherwise thought of as bother/irritating or troubling 'feelings'?) only exists in a insular and far removed vacuum and are only felt in in regards to things that are strictly 'traumatic' or losing loved ones, and there's never anything else to it?

I don't think that even needs to be so defined and have that definition rigidly drawn in the sand, does it? it's pretty obvious to anyone who has feelings what it is to mourn or feel pain from loss or a hurt of some kind. But it almost just seems like pointing out and going "Okay, this is a different kind of sadness, this sadness is okay to feel, but only in this way and here are the rules. But all other kinds of feelings don't count or matter/and don't exist. The end"


I just don't agree.


So, how can you even overcome this sense of feeling of loss, and how can you argue in some way that it doesn't completely change you or your world view? it's not so much that I haven't cried or felt sad enough, but every father's day, every time I see happy families or on holidays where you are supposed to celebrate in that regard, I feel feelings of remorse, sadness, and other strange things that aren't so easy to label. My way of going about things, thinking and the choices I've made are (many of them at least) directly related to this particular loss (and others) I have experienced. I don't think it will ever go away.

It's changed and simultaneously become a part of me and who I am.

 

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I've been very much getting into spirituality (not Christian mind you), I think there are some things we cannot comprehend easily of the universe. If we are all part of the universe how is there something so powerful we cannot handle? Given your beliefs you may disagree.

Food for thought.

It might've been better had you posed this question under Philosophy & Spirituality, because putting in a General Psychology sub-forum kind of gears you towards mainstream psychological thought which is dominated by empirialistic philosophy as it attempts to imitate the hard/physical sciences.

So the previous responses are definitely worth a hearing if that's what you're looking for under a modern psychological context.

THE POWER OF NOW.

"PRESENCE"

"THE MOMENT"

"BUDDHISM"

"TAOISM"

"CHRIST-CONSCIOUSNESS"


Yes, yes, yes. Very well familiar. I don't like how spirituality has no began to get treated like it's a religion in itself. Again, why so many rules? man, why can't people define things on THEIR OWN TERMS.

Food for thought


CROSS YOUR HEARTS AND HOPE TO

MARIA SHRIVER!@@@@!!!!!

 

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man, why can't people define things on THEIR OWN TERMS.

They can, but it doesn't make it right.

 

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They can, but it doesn't make it right.

I know, right?

It doesn't make it right, that's my point