User Tag List

123 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 25

  1. #1
    I wanna fcken feel right Numbly Aware's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    MBTI
    INTP
    Enneagram
    3w4 so/sx
    Socionics
    LIE Te
    Posts
    445

    Default Environment Debate.

    Does your environment control you?
    Then, does your environment affect you?

    (Secretly, I'd like to see some ENTJs and their so called logical answers)
    One step ahead from yesterday~

  2. #2
    Senior Member RedAmazoneFriendZone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    MBTI
    EXFP
    Enneagram
    7w8 sp/sx
    Socionics
    EEI Fi
    Posts
    1,273

    Default

    NOPE. Because I've chosen a life in which there is little risk to feel controlled.

    Yes. That's why I choose honest and positive people that can enter my life.


    Even if I'm an extrovert I get easily exhausted with people. I tend to have deep and intense interactions

    and go back to my loneliness to charge my batteries, analyse my day, focus on the main things, so that I can plan another creative time ahead/
    ALL THAT WE SEE OR SEEM TO BE IS BUT A DREAM WITHIN A DREAM

  3. #3
    Digital ambition Virtual ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    iNTJ
    Enneagram
    513 so/sp
    Posts
    10,625

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAmazoneFriendZone View Post
    NOPE. Because I've chosen a life in which there is little risk to feel controlled.

    Yes. That's why I choose honest and positive people that can enter my life.

    Even if I'm an extrovert I get easily exhausted with people. I tend to have deep and intense interactions

    and go back to my loneliness to charge my batteries, analyse my day, focus on the main things, so that I can plan another creative time ahead/

    Just because you don't sense someone's control that doesn't mean that it isn't there.
    Likes Arctic Hysteria liked this post

  4. #4
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    MBTI
    ENFJ
    Enneagram
    1w2 sp/so
    Socionics
    EIE Fe
    Posts
    8,632

    Default

    Everyone is controlled by their environment. Every creature alive is.
    Likes Smilephantomhive liked this post

  5. #5
    eh cascadeco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Enneagram
    4 sp
    Posts
    7,635

    Default

    I am impacted by my environment, yes. I do think I can make choices to change my situation if I want to, however, so I don't exactly feel controlled by my environment. I can change many elements of my environment, though there are things that can't be changed - ie a basic need for food, water, shelter.

    This seems like the 'do we actually have free will' philosophical thing, though....so I suppose it's how you look at it/ one could go round in circles on this topic.
    "...On and on and on and on he strode, far out over the sands, singing wildly to the sea, crying to greet the advent of the life that had cried to him." - James Joyce

    My Photography and Watercolor Fine Art Prints!!! Cascade Colors Fine Art Prints
    https://docs.google.com/uc?export=do...Gd5N3NZZE52QjQ
    Likes Numbly Aware, CitizenErased liked this post

  6. #6
    Senior Member ceecee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    10,999

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    Everyone is controlled by their environment. Every creature alive is.
    To a point. If something impacts me or my people, especially in a negative way - I'm going to control it or at least make changes in a positive way.
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.
    Likes Numbly Aware liked this post

  7. #7
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    MBTI
    ENFJ
    Enneagram
    1w2 sp/so
    Socionics
    EIE Fe
    Posts
    8,632

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    To a point. If something impacts me or my people, especially in a negative way - I'm going to control it or at least make changes in a positive way.
    Oh of course. That's not to say we can't do something about it. Nor does it say that we don't do any of the controlling ourselves.

  8. #8
    not to be trusted miss fortune's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Enneagram
    827 sp/so
    Posts
    20,732

    Default

    for many of the best AND worst parts I was in control of my own environment and realizing that you created a really shitty situation for yourself fucking SUCKS because then you only have yourself to blame for it

    yeah, that type of thing can impact you.. I made some really bad decisions at one point and I can say that it really had an impact on who I am now and as much as I'd like to say that the shit situations I got myself into were not my fault, I can't claim that because I know better than that

    however, back on topic, no matter who you are your environment has a definite impact on your life and who you end up becoming and how you react to it does as well
    “The phrase 'Someone ought to do something' was not, by itself, a helpful one. People who used it never added the rider 'and that someone is me'.” - Terry Pratchett

  9. #9
    Senior Member RedAmazoneFriendZone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    MBTI
    EXFP
    Enneagram
    7w8 sp/sx
    Socionics
    EEI Fi
    Posts
    1,273

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    Just because you don't sense someone's control that doesn't mean that it isn't there.
    Explain yourself master ENTJ ! By doing so, The poor slave I am will tell you the truth
    ALL THAT WE SEE OR SEEM TO BE IS BUT A DREAM WITHIN A DREAM

  10. #10
    Digital ambition Virtual ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    iNTJ
    Enneagram
    513 so/sp
    Posts
    10,625

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAmazoneFriendZone View Post
    Explain yourself master ENTJ ! By doing so, The poor slave I am will tell you the truth

    It is quite simple actually:

    No matter what you do you will probably pay taxes of some kind
    If OPEC (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries) decides to mess with energy prices you will feel it
    Why did you get any education ? Because you were though that this is for your own good (and it probably is but someone else channeled you into this)
    How many buildings/roads did you construct in your life ? How many did you use ?
    How many times did you decide to play along simply because you don't care eather way ?
    Do you produce your own food or set laws regarding the standards or food production ?
    Does your country have problems with crime or people who strike from the shadows ?
    Did you ever wonder how your picture of the world came to be ?

    Etc Etc.
    Likes Typh0n liked this post

Similar Threads

  1. [MBTItm] INFP and Negative Work Environments
    By denial in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 10-29-2009, 02:13 PM
  2. Democratic Debate/CNN
    By Tigerlily in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-16-2007, 01:50 PM
  3. Debating styles
    By Ravenetta in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 08-11-2007, 08:10 PM
  4. Ron Paul Wins Another Presidential Debate
    By FranG in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 05-18-2007, 12:31 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO