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Gender Fluidity

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?
Very little with the preconceived notion, if any.

Do you think gender is innate?
No.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?
No.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?
No.

How do you view gender in any regard?
A social construct that's endured through today.
 

Qlip

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?
Some.

Do you think gender is innate?
I think that current gender roles aren't innate, but the propensity to create arbitrary roles and assign them to sex/class/eye color/hair type/height is innate.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?
No.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?
I really dig this whole fluid/queer thing. It makes sense to me.

How do you view gender in any regard?
I find it restrictive and arbitrary.
 

Morpeko

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?
Not much in personality, a lot in appearance.

Do you think gender is innate?
No.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?
Hell no.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?
It has definitely evolved so much over recent history. I don't like the direction it's going into. I definitely don't want it to go back to the past, though.
Rather than people believing in the binary or spectrum, I'd rather just completely throw the concept of gender out the window.

How do you view gender in any regard?
In case it wasn't clear, I find it unhelpful and limiting.
I do think that biological sex is important to consider because there are biological differences. But it shouldn't mean more than that.
 

SurrealisticSlumbers

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?

I would say I identify with it.

Do you think gender is innate?

I think - not to be crass - humans are much more than the sum of their anatomical differences. That which we perceive as a "female" trait versus a "male" trait is socially constructed and varies across continent, subgroup, etc.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?

It depends upon if that role is taken on willingly. If someone does not want to become a mother, for example, she shouldn't be consigned to such a role. It also begs the question of, who determines and sets these roles, anyhow? I keep thinking of that uber-creepy show The Handmaid's Tale. Although it's an extreme example, this is what such autocracy would look like... I say, let someone define their own role within society - if it's truly a democracy.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?

Not really. Pretty much every feminist movement that came after The Feminine Mystique just got weirder and more arbitrary. It went from being, let's get women viewed equally in all industries to, I should be allowed to walk the streets naked. I think this has harmed the essence of what it originally meant to be a feminist. I think it has hindered the progress of women and caused a lot of bickering. I'm interested in how the lives of women in other countries can be ameliorated at this point. One could argue that in Western countries we still have prejudice against women/misogyny but it's hella worse in places like India.

I think the divide, mentally and psychologically, will always exist. Men and women will probably always be viewed differently to some extent, the point is to not let it negatively affect things. Such as a woman getting hired for a job she is qualified to work.

How do you view gender in any regard?

A certain set of attributes that is assigned to an individual from birth, based on cultural, religious, and socio-economic factors.
 

Gone

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?
I don't. I mean, I am female and I certainly don't disagree, it's just not very important to me. What is important to me is to be acknowledged as a person and to be treated as such.

Do you think gender is innate?
Well who defines what gender is? It's a matter of perception. I think that a central part of your personality is set at birth and the rest is heavily influenced by how you were raised, the society you live in, etc. How this part of your personality is perceived and if it appears more stereotypically female or stereotypically male or something else depends on the collective agreement of the society you live in.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?
Probably? I personally think they suck and people just should treat everyone as a person. But everyone will always make assumptions based on external appearance and behaviour (be it (visible) gender, skin colour, hair colour, hair length, clothes, if you painted your nails or not, choice of words, accent) and notice patterns and draw conclusions from that, so it seems to be beneficial at large.
I don't think there's much to be done about it except always keeping in mind that these assumptions are exactly that: assumptions. And the difference between genders is not as big as gender roles suggest.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?
In which time frame? Over the course of centuries, even just decades, surely. I do think they change every year, every day. Improved is another matter... highly subjective. In my mind it did get better over time but things seems to be regressing again lately.
 

BlackCat

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?

I don't feel that I am drawn to any sort of categorization like this (ironically since I'm on TypeC); when it comes to typical societal roles. What I do is what I want to do, and not really attached to the fact that I was born a certain way.

Do you think gender is innate?

I think much of what we define as "gender" stems from gender roles, rather than innate desires and instincts. The instinct to mate, to find a partner, and everything to do with that I think is innate. This stems from the nature vs nurture argument.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?

Meh. Now that technological advances have been made to the point we're at, many gender roles of the past are becoming obsolete. I get very irritated when I hear "That's a man's job" or "You're a guy, you should know how to do X". No... nothing to do with a "man's job" has to do with the fact that I was born with a penis, sorry to break it to you. It especially irritates me when I see women put themselves down and not believe in themselves simply because they are a woman and they "need a man to do this". I understand if physical limitations are a factor, but literally nothing about how you were born can stop you from learning skills or otherwise in life. I think most gender roles are utter bullshit.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?

I think it's getting better. But to see any real progress as far as general society goes, the older generations will have to die off before we see a lot of real change. Many sexist CEOs or what have you are most likely baby boomers who hold archaic values. We only have to worry about their children who have also been taught these ways. This is due in part also to the fact that most politicians are also in that age range, upholding said archaic values in their office. Until some more open minded people of younger generations become politicians... it's going to be hard to combat a lot of these kinds of issues. For example, in Georgia (USA), they do not recognize that a man can be raped. It goes both ways, there is sexism for both men and women out there.

How do you view gender in any regard?

I pretty much only think about gender when it comes to dating, or my own personal attractions. I am attracted to femininity, and thus, I choose women for who I want to date. But that's about it. I am just as likely to look at someone like they're an idiot for not knowing how to do something "because I'm a woman" as I am to be happy to see people who break these invisible rulers.
 

Morpeko

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Just how much do you identify with your own gender?

Not at all. I don't at all consider the gender I was assigned to be a significant part of my identity. I never think of myself as a "woman" or even a "girl," just a person. I don't even feel comfortable using "she/her" pronouns for myself. Unfortunately, gender does seem to be important to people so I can't escape being described in those ways.

I am very uncomfortable with my body, but mainly because I perceive it to be ugly and weak. I don't think the ugliness has anything to do with gender, but the weakness is because of my size. I guess there is dysphoria, since I am also very disgusted thinking about my sexual organs. I think I may still be dysphoric if I had a penis, though.

Do you think gender is innate?

No, but sex is.

Do you think that it is important to have set gender roles, even loose ones?

No, I find it harmful to anyone who doesn't fit into the gender roles, even if they are loose.

Has the divide between how certain genders are viewed, including predjudicial aspects really changed or improved?

No.

How do you view gender in any regard?

I hate it. I hate every concept of it. I especially hate gender roles. I try to avoid thinking of people in terms of their gender (although it's hard for me when I'm sexually attracted to someone).
 
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