GreatBigCranberries
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So as I understand it, personality type is like a framework in your mind through which you think and view and interact with the world. I was wondering if anyone knew anything or had any ideas about how learning disabilities might have an effect on, or be affected by personality type.
I'm curious because I'm 90% sure my severely dyslexic father is an ISTJ. If I had to describe him in one word it would be 'reliable'. He's steady, hard-working, and unemotional. He actually seems to like, in his quiet understated way, (what I find to be) boring administrative-ish tasks. He never reads things between the lines, and never says anything between the lines either. The only thing I can ever recall making him angry is people disregarding their responsibilities. He doesn't mind talking about theory at all, but only provided that he can see some direct relation to the real world. But if you try to talk to him about something like, say, literary themes or (heaven forbid) fantasy, he just does not see the point.
However, he is messy. Shockingly messy. As far as I have read, neatness seems to be considered, not as a possible ISTJ trait, but as an almost fundamental expression of the type. This made we wonder if maybe he was actually and ISTP, but my dad doesn't seem to prefer an SP lack of structure (and definitely does not have that SP thrill seeking spirit), he is just very, very un-neat. It doesn't show at home so much since my mom cleans compulsively, but his workspace permanently looks like a filing cabinet exploded on it. The weird thing is, in practise this does not seem to make him disorganized.
The second curiosity is that my brother—also severely dyslexic—appears to be an ESFJ. He is also extraordinarily messy, contrary to what you would expect from the type. I've considered that he might be an ESFP, but in everything else he sounds so much like an ESFJ. One of the strongest and most blatant pieces of evidence I know of that he is in fact an ESFJ is his concern over/interest in gender roles. He's an extremely emotional person with a generous heart who really, really wants to fit in and please people. But he doesn't show this off so much since he reached puberty because he's developed this (occasionally obnoxious) cool, tough guy attitude, which he now only lets down around girls who he is very close to, and cuddly animals. And you can always tell who his favourite character in a movie will be, because it's always the guy who is most ideally masculine. Descriptions I've read of male ESFJs fit him really well, and explain so much of his behaviour. Except, again, that he is very, very messy. He's over-the-top messy, all the time.
If I think about personality type as a mental frame work, it seems to make sense that a learning disability might partially alter that frame work. And that the results of that might show up in, say, an SJ being messy rather than neat. I would appreciate any input from anyone who knows anything about how this might affect personality type, or has any more familiarity with learning disabilities. Does this sound reasonable? Am I just deluding myself? Is neatness actually as significant to the SJ personalities types as I've been led to believe?
I suppose I should add I'm interested in more than just how a learning disability might affect a person's cleaning skills, that's just the most obviously odd thing I've noticed.
I'm curious because I'm 90% sure my severely dyslexic father is an ISTJ. If I had to describe him in one word it would be 'reliable'. He's steady, hard-working, and unemotional. He actually seems to like, in his quiet understated way, (what I find to be) boring administrative-ish tasks. He never reads things between the lines, and never says anything between the lines either. The only thing I can ever recall making him angry is people disregarding their responsibilities. He doesn't mind talking about theory at all, but only provided that he can see some direct relation to the real world. But if you try to talk to him about something like, say, literary themes or (heaven forbid) fantasy, he just does not see the point.
However, he is messy. Shockingly messy. As far as I have read, neatness seems to be considered, not as a possible ISTJ trait, but as an almost fundamental expression of the type. This made we wonder if maybe he was actually and ISTP, but my dad doesn't seem to prefer an SP lack of structure (and definitely does not have that SP thrill seeking spirit), he is just very, very un-neat. It doesn't show at home so much since my mom cleans compulsively, but his workspace permanently looks like a filing cabinet exploded on it. The weird thing is, in practise this does not seem to make him disorganized.
The second curiosity is that my brother—also severely dyslexic—appears to be an ESFJ. He is also extraordinarily messy, contrary to what you would expect from the type. I've considered that he might be an ESFP, but in everything else he sounds so much like an ESFJ. One of the strongest and most blatant pieces of evidence I know of that he is in fact an ESFJ is his concern over/interest in gender roles. He's an extremely emotional person with a generous heart who really, really wants to fit in and please people. But he doesn't show this off so much since he reached puberty because he's developed this (occasionally obnoxious) cool, tough guy attitude, which he now only lets down around girls who he is very close to, and cuddly animals. And you can always tell who his favourite character in a movie will be, because it's always the guy who is most ideally masculine. Descriptions I've read of male ESFJs fit him really well, and explain so much of his behaviour. Except, again, that he is very, very messy. He's over-the-top messy, all the time.
If I think about personality type as a mental frame work, it seems to make sense that a learning disability might partially alter that frame work. And that the results of that might show up in, say, an SJ being messy rather than neat. I would appreciate any input from anyone who knows anything about how this might affect personality type, or has any more familiarity with learning disabilities. Does this sound reasonable? Am I just deluding myself? Is neatness actually as significant to the SJ personalities types as I've been led to believe?
I suppose I should add I'm interested in more than just how a learning disability might affect a person's cleaning skills, that's just the most obviously odd thing I've noticed.