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    not to be trusted miss fortune's Avatar
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    Default you and authority

    what's your relationship towards authority? in general, in specific, on principle, so on and so forth

    (not, however, the authority... I don't care what you think about triple h... really)

    do you bristle at the very thought of anyone telling you what to do?

    do you quietly do as they say while plotting their downfall?

    do you not care?

    I'm kind of wondering how other people relate since, after years of being told that I have authority issues, I'm starting to wonder if other people might have a point

    how do people get through the day without doing something inappropriate?
    “The phrase 'Someone ought to do something' was not, by itself, a helpful one. People who used it never added the rider 'and that someone is me'.” - Terry Pratchett

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    I had authority issues when I was younger. I was always boisterous and offensive and got in trouble for the stupidest things, reflexively resisting any instruction for the sake of my "independence." The simplest of daily functions became power struggles on a regular basis.

    Now I've gotten all withdrawn and quiet and I can't make myself wipe my own nose unless directly commanded to. I'm completely dependent on higher authority at this point. It's terrible.

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    Depends, if they're just doing their job and doing it properly without overstepping a boundary or trying to control something I don't believe is under their jurisdiction then I don't mind authority. Even if I might have a problem with some rules I can respect their authority on the matter and sulk in silence. It's when I don't think someone has a right to be doing or saying something that I get annoyed and the person becomes nuisance. I do tend to follow a 'respect is earned' philosophy regardless of a person's age or whatever, so in my eyes you don't really have authority until I've decided you do.

    After living with strict parents I promised to never let someone tell me what to do or be bound by rules I want no part in besides the legislations I've agreed to follow (such as with school, the law and so forth).

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    Strongly Ambivalent Ivy's Avatar
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    Depends almost entirely on whether or not I respect the authority figure.

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    When people have authority I respect it. When they think they have authority over me and/or make unreasonable requests, I see a large issue and am not compliant. I'm very passive and I'm more likely to just be quietly unhappy and then leave the situation.
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    It is my natural orientation to bristle at being told what to do. Some of my earliest memories are of feeling people's orders burn inside me. But I tended to think that it came from something being sideways in me instead of something wrong with the authority. I observed that children were largely judged as good or bad by their willingness to obey and resented that hotly, yet when I was caught ignoring my obligations, felt horrified that my broken compass had been discovered and became vulnerable to the shamer. Other times, I'd bind myself to the rules rigidly but still in a self-absorbed manner that totally missed the point of them, doing it just to spite myself rather than giving any thought to what bigger purpose they might serve outside myself. But I could only do that for so long - it wasn't uncommon that I'd come home from a hard day at school and snap at the first request from a parent.

    As an adult, any authority situation I'm in is one I've chosen and agreed to, which is ideal. I choose carefully and prefer those that are as hands-off as possible, and where they're not, have to grit my teeth and remember my commitment - I do not commit to something unless I know I can carry it out to the end. The exception is if an authority misuses their position, I won't bear it for long before I cut ties and choose better. I despise people who misuse power, and if I stick with them, that's as good as supporting them.

    I can think of one situation where I regret just walking away, that I didn't do or say something to let them know what practices they did that were wrong. Doubtful it would have made any difference, but that's no excuse. It's been a year since then, and I'm thinking about whether I can still do something to help people in that situation from the outside, that I really ought to.
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    Twerking & Lurking ayoitsStepho's Avatar
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    If they're put into authority and don't give me reason to question their position then I can submit to that. i will always naturally respect an individual until they give me reason not to.

    Now if someone comes along and doesn't have authority over me but thinks that they do, it really irks me. People seem to think that just because I'm not loud and authoritative that I want to be led. I don't want to lead or follow, just leave alone to my own devices.
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    The biggest problem I have with authority is thinking I'm smarter or have a better plan than them (a common problem for an INTJ, but definitely other people can relate). It does absolutely nothing helpful, practically speaking.

    In general, I pick my battles with authority. Most authority figures would not mind you voicing problems with the situation (but usually not themselves, unless you are very delicate). I believe that most people in authority are going to have some measure of goodwill for the organization/group/business etc. as their success is tied to it, rarely will you find a true totalitarian that you have to be shrewd with or take head on when appropriate.

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    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    My opinion on authority is whatever the person in charge tells me it is.
    I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child!

    Each thought's completely warped
    I'm like a walkin', talkin', ouija board.
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