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Are psychologists worth it?

danseen

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Only Sith deal in absolutes.

I did a Star Wars marathon this weekend, heh.

Though yeah, obvi, psychologists are worth it. Psychocognitive healing is an important and blameless intent.

Sorry, dude, perhaps your geekdom blinds you to reality...

Look , you've been dismissive of me, why must I accept you? Stop watching The Empire Strikes Back and get with the real world, not your subjective projection of it...
 
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Sorry, dude, perhaps your geekdom blinds you to reality...

Look , you've been dismissive of me, why must I accept you? Stop watching The Empire Strikes Back and get with the real world, not your subjective projection of it...

You mustn't. This is your pejorative, not mine.
 

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You mustn't. This is your pejorative, not mine.

OK, but yes, I must "treat you human" though we don't each other, you don't reciprocate.

Can anybody here cite that as normal conduct/feeling, and not some crap based on pop culture?
 

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I think this guy might be a troll. just saying

Yeah, I figured it out back when I was still posting in this thread. I also have a suspiscion its something more sinister than that but I dont really have much evidence for it at this juncture.
 

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I'm not offended, I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt by saying you were probably a troll. The only other option is severely delusional

And it really and truly is either or at this moment in time, ample evidence of it in the thread, its not speculation. Sooooooo, everyone's got to make their minds up if its worthwhile paying attention to this sort of poster...
 

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You're posting in this thread alone leads me to suspect there's more to this than meets the eye.

I think there's grounds to believe, from this thread alone, that you're rationalising your behaviour, behaviour you admittedly dont want to give up or refrain from and which are being challenged by your therapist rather than validated.

If you are supposed to be working with a therapist to overcome or change this behaviour and you are unwilling to have it challenged I'm really not sure what you will achieve. There's too much resistance for analysis, if its a depth psychologist, if its cognitive behaviour therapy, rational emotive behaviour therapy or any of the variations on those themes then there's really has to be a desire to change in the client.

Like I say you're finding fault in the therapeutic process and your therapist but you should be looking to your self instead.


Er... so you're essentially saying that the many can do x, but i cannot? Kindly state why?
 

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Yeah, I figured it out back when I was still posting in this thread. I also have a suspiscion its something more sinister than that but I dont really have much evidence for it at this juncture.

No, I just think psychology should be outlawed. It's deviated from its original premise.
 

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lulz..


OK, so the general attitude here is that:

- Doing what the many do is "ill"
- Many uni students engage in no strings sex, but because you and idiot psychologists say so, it makes it so.
- You presume "only some people" can do things, yet this is a metaphysical/spiritual point and not a scientific one. Presumably you're threatened that somebody is encroaching on your perceived territory, but so what, your thoughts/needs don't supersede others..
 

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This thread has sort of turned into a shitshow.

@danseen, I'm sorry for the bad experiences that you have had; clearly you've been treated unfairly. But at least in the United States, where I live, the Association of State and Provincial Psychology Boards (ASPPB) and the American Psychological Association (APA) both set ethical standards and address malpractice complaints. Before licensure is granted, psychologists here must take ethics coursework and pass ethics exams, and licensure can be revoked on the basis of unethical practice. Lying, cruelty, mockery, telling you that you deserve harm, informing you that your beliefs are wrong, and personally targeting you are all fair game for complaint to the professional associations that monitor psychological practice. If you feel like you were wronged and that it has caused lasting damage, I would gather all the factual evidence you can and present it to whatever the professional regulatory association for psychologists is in your area, and file a formal complaint.

Beyond that, though, I do not think it is fair to group all psychologists as hating or not comprehending modern values, or as being out to get you. I am friends with quite a few psychologists who are not at all like the people you have described. They are open and compassionate about their work.

yet you condone ethical violations. If you're not a nice person, just say so...
 

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Are you sure? Psychologists believe their opinions to be absolute truth you know, guided by God/the Universe itself...

I'm not a psychologist...

Well I simply dislike psychologists since they are dishonest and pushy people.

You assert that "I don't know you", well you don't know me but you judge me lol.. Seemingly for a student of the science, you don't get human conduct. Unless you can prove how human beings are owed others' attention, or how your need for attention is superior to others? I want concrete evidence, not metaphysical nonsense as the "profession" cites.

I am not judging you... I am just offering my thoughts about your situation based on what I know. I enjoy helping people when I can. The only way I can think of to help you in this situation is to give you my perspective and hope that it is useful to you.

[MENTION=20143]danseen[/MENTION], I hope you have gotten something useful out of posting in this thread and I hope that your situation gets better. If there is anything I can do to help you, please let me know.
 
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lulz..


OK, so the general attitude here is that:

- Doing what the many do is "ill"
- Many uni students engage in no strings sex, but because you and idiot psychologists say so, it makes it so.
- You presume "only some people" can do things, yet this is a metaphysical/spiritual point and not a scientific one. Presumably you're threatened that somebody is encroaching on your perceived territory, but so what, your thoughts/needs don't supersede others..

You know you're Ni, not Ti.

Hehehehe.
 

Mole

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no. no they're not.

As a whole psychologists are good at curing neuroses like phobias.

However in particular some psychologist specialise in particular neuroses.

And then some psychologists are better than others. A good sign of a successful outcome is if there is rapport between the psychologist and the patient.
 

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[MENTION=20143]danseen[/MENTION] may I inquire what country you are posting from?
 

danseen

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You know you're Ni, not Ti.

Hehehehe.

what?

look, why is it wrong for ME to drink in college when the many do it? do you even have a cogent response?

or is it some stupid and irrational means to select who does what? lol.. kindly state the authority gained to do this, why it's justified? i think my initial suspicion was spot on, it's some stupid metaphysical point at hand here...
 

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I never went to a psychologist. But twice I went to a counselor when I was dealing with two really heavy, stressful situations. I wanted a neutral ear to listen to me. Well- that is basically all they did. Neither helped me in any way. So they make money to sit and listen. Kind of like we all do out here- we listen to each other but we don't charge! lol (so yeah- for me- useless. But I know they have added value to the lives of others.)
 

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[MENTION=20143]danseen[/MENTION] may I inquire what country you are posting from?

er.. I'm British.

I think in our country the profession has been co-opted by the PC agenda.

This is why most of their practitioners say that because their clients live in "big houses" (and mine is no much "bigger" than many others in my town) i deserve to be "beaten up and harassed", or that "intelligent people" "should" be religious or be using that to assist all other people. ok, so yes Stalin and Hitler were dullards haha..
 

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er.. I'm British.

I think in our country the profession has been co-opted by the PC agenda.

This is why most of their practitioners say that because their clients live in "big houses" (and mine is no much "bigger" than many others in my town) i deserve to be "beaten up and harassed", or that "intelligent people" "should" be religious or be using that to assist all other people. ok, so yes Stalin and Hitler were dullards haha..

May I inquire further in what context your former psychologist said "you deserve to beaten up and harassed"? How does the PC agenda fit into this?
 

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How strange. Here we have a site devoted to psychology yet we are questioning the worth of psychologists.

Psychologists are trained to empathize. No one here empathizes, the best we get is sympathy.

Frankly, I think it is those who won't do therapy who criticize psychologists.
 
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