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do you think i can safely smoke weed?

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Mole

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that interesting, it's the chicken or egg thing. I had my first true hallucination when i was 10 or 11 (saw the virgin mary, she told me to come to her, convinced it was actually the devil i ran the other way) and was having peripheals well before than and extreme paranoia to the point i wouldn't sleep. but i didn't smoke until i was 15 did i get worse naturally, or did me smoking make me worse???

The chapter on schizophrenia in, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", by Julian Jaynes may interest you. Here is a taste -

Most of us spontaneously slip back into something approach-ing the actual bicameral mind at some part of our lives. For some of us, it is only a few episodes of thought deprivation or hearing voices. But for others of us, with overactive dopamine systems, or lacking an enzyme to easily break down the biochemical products of continued stress into excretable form, it is a much more harrowing experience — if it can be called an experience at all. We hear voices of impelling importance that criticize us and tell us what to do. At the same time, we seem to lose the boundaries of ourselves. Time crumbles. We behave without knowing it. Our mental space begins to vanish. We panic, and yet the panic is not happening to us. There is no us. It is not that we have nowhere to turn; we have nowhere. And in that no-where, we are somehow automatons, unknowing what we do, being manipulated by others or by our voices in strange and frightening ways in a place we come to recognize as a hospital with a diagnosis we are told is schizophrenia. In reality, we have relapsed into the bicameral mind.
 

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cons of smoking for me personally
-small psychotic breaks that are more intense than the ones I have naturally
-fuzzy for the week after
-meds might not work aswell
-higher chance of going in patient
-enjoy music more clean and sober
-more creative clean and sober
-my thinking is clearer, and i can actually solve semi-hard word puzzles when not smoking (of course my meds need to be working as well, shush this isn't about that)
 

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^ well, there you go, there's your answer. Well done.
 

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Tell again why you want so much to be able to smoke pot? If it's because that's what you think everybody else is doing, they're not. If everybody else around you is doing that, you need to find more edifying company, srsly.
 

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What if my meds were working 100% and there was no chance of it intermingling with them, then could i?

I don't know your diagnosis. I was diagnosed bipolar at 22. Right at the height of when you go through that party phase of life. For me, I couldn't. In order for me to get better I had to stop drinking (1 or 2 drinks would have adverse affects. I did no other recreational drugs.

I was on medication for 10 years after I wanted to get off them. With my doctors help and approval, I weened off of them.

Trust me, the first 2-3 years of medication are crucial. You should not be doing anything else but trying to find the meds that work for you. It takes time and trials. Other drugs recreationally may be harmful to your sanity and make it impossible to stabilize.

Your stability should be first priority.

Can you re-visit this later? Perhaps. You have to always self-monitor and you cannot do that without knowing how you are when you are JUST on your meds. That way, you can trust yourself.

After 2 years and being on the right meds I could have a drink or two. It affected my differently- More normal - because I gave my brain a chance to become accustomed to the meds.

But this is common sense : if you are reacting badly to any drug - prescribed or otherwise - make changes to your meds with doctor consent. Some people can't smoke pot. I think you may be one of them. And that's okay.
 

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I'm glad that most of the people in this thread have given you firm no's. I agree with them, especially with kyuuei's insight that no one who cares about your wellbeing would tell you yes.

I hope you know that I care very much about your wellbeing. And I'm not against pot in general, but I am very much against it for you. I really do get that you're sort of grieving right now, in your recovery, the loss of the idea that you can be neurotypical. But not being neurotypical is not necessarily a whole bad thing, if you deal with it responsibly, which you have been for however many months now. You're one of the most creative people I have ever met- and you've retained that creativity through your recovery, which is huge. I really want that to continue.

Prpl, you are doing SO GREAT lately. And I know that you get a lot of support here, and I for one am always glad to give it, and hope that you don't get fed up with my tendency for "mama bear"-ing you. But I would also encourage you to take these kinds of questions to your care team instead of to the forum at large- not everyone here has your best interests in mind and many don't know your situation well enough. But most of all, nobody on this forum, me included, is qualified to make a sound recommendation for you.
 

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Tell again why you want so much to be able to smoke pot? If it's because that's what you think everybody else is doing, they're not. If everybody else around you is doing that, you need to find more edifying company, srsly.

actually no one i hang around with smokes pot. because i mis the party life style.not really, the further i get from the less i miss it
 

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I'm glad that most of the people in this thread have given you firm no's. I agree with them, especially with kyuuei's insight that no one who cares about your wellbeing would tell you yes.

I hope you know that I care very much about your wellbeing. And I'm not against pot in general, but I am very much against it for you. I really do get that you're sort of grieving right now, in your recovery, the loss of the idea that you can be neurotypical. But not being neurotypical is not necessarily a whole bad thing, if you deal with it responsibly, which you have been for however many months now. You're one of the most creative people I have ever met- and you've retained that creativity through your recovery, which is huge. I really want that to continue.

Prpl, you are doing SO GREAT lately. And I know that you get a lot of support here, and I for one am always glad to give it, and hope that you don't get fed up with my tendency for "mama bear"-ing you. But I would also encourage you to take these kinds of questions to your care team instead of to the forum at large- not everyone here has your best interests in mind and many don't know your situation well enough. But most of all, nobody on this forum, me included, is qualified to make a sound recommendation for you.

my family including my brother who is pro legalize weed says no weed for me. and close friends say no, so i'd have to meet some seedy people, cuz i always manage to get people who care about me in my life. I don't know why i want to be able to smoke weed so bad, especially considering how it treats me. Than again if i had an SO that abused me I'd probably keep crawling back, because i'd look at the situation through rose colored glasses. I like the fact that I am more creative than i have been in years, and more rational than i was for years. I'm not perfect i still make dumb dangerous decisions on occasion.and my care team would say no, even if i was neurotypical, but if i was i'd never had gotten on meds and than told to take meds i hated and than took myself off them, than felt instable and did drugs and drink to feel normal/stable. so basically if i was neurotypical i wouldn't be in this mess.

I also feel sick when people pretend to be weird or under the delusion of being weird when 95% of earth is like that. I don't like being weird, maybe it's a 4 trait. but when you sometimes have trouble with reality its more of a hinderance than a blessing. It gets old I've been sitting in cars unsure if a conversations were going on or not. you know I don't need to do drugs, I have enough "trippy" stuff happen without drugs. I haven't done shrooms since highschool and I thought I was turning into a drag queen, cuz i didn't recognize my face for a day or 2 when i looked into the mirror. I thought it had morphed.
 

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So my solution is to smoke on the weekends, but what if i don't come back one time?

Then you're fucked. With no one to blame but yourself, I guess. :shrug:

/white people's problems
 

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Weed's not for everyone, some people just have bad reactions to it. If its harmful to you and your well-being, don't do it.
 

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Then you're fucked. With no one to blame but yourself, I guess. :shrug:

/white people's problems

Pretty sure all races and socioeconomic classes deal with mental illness. Sure, some socioeconomic levels are less likely to get treatment for them, but that doesn't mean mental illness should be dismissed.
 

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Pretty sure all races and socioeconomic classes deal with mental illness. Sure, some socioeconomic levels are less likely to get treatment for them, but that doesn't mean mental illness should be dismissed.

I'm not dismissing mental illness. Learn to read before you presume to criticise me.

I'm dismissing her "woe is me, I can't smoke weed like normal people" whining and all the absurd pandering in this thread.

If she can ask these questions at all, then she is sound enough of mind to take responsibility for her own actions - and not take a drug that she knows will make her condition worse. If she is not sound of mind, then whatever people say here won't make much difference.
And yes, I know all races / classes take drugs, stop being so literal.
 

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I don't take the question as entirely sincere, since the answer seems so readily apparent and she had already come to it herself -- it's just part of how she communicates with the group; it's her pattern. So entertaining the question is a way to interact with her. I suppose you could call it "pandering," but knowing the individual, the word seems a little harsh.
 

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I've had two people close to me become schizophrenic after experimental use of cannabis and cause their friends and families a world of pain. I have little patience for people who willfully do damage to themselves in this way. I reserve my sympathy for the deserving.
Yes, it's pandering.
The OP is pure manipulation. Such people chap my (harsh) ass.
 

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I'm not dismissing mental illness. Learn to read before you presume to criticise me.

I'm dismissing her "woe is me, I can't smoke weed like normal people" whining and all the absurd pandering in this thread.

If she can ask these questions at all, then she is sound enough of mind to take responsibility for her own actions - and not take a drug that she knows will make her condition worse. If she is not sound of mind, then whatever people say here won't make much difference.
And yes, I know all races / classes take drugs, stop being so literal.

I've had two people close to me become schizophrenic after experimental use of cannabis and cause their friends and families a world of pain. I have little patience for people who willfully do damage to themselves in this way. I reserve my sympathy for the deserving.
Yes, it's pandering.
The OP is pure manipulation. Such people chap my (harsh) ass.

totally wrong. I actually posted the thread when i was unsure. I was hoping that maybe there'd be some possibility that i could when it came obvious there wasn't I then came to the conclusion, not before. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't assume someone elses motives. and i don't get how it was manipulation. I came to the conclusion not in 5 minutes but in a few hours of posting the op.

Also you are absolutley terrible at figuring out people's motives, so just stop.

also the last thing I wasn't asking for was sympathy. If I was I'd have cried more about not being able to. I just really really really wish I could, I don't give a rats ass about people feeling sorry for me in this situation. especially when I have other things more deserving of sympathy going on my life (and to give you a hint it actually has very little to do with me and absolutley nothing with my illness)

and i meant 5-50 years in the future, not tomorrow.
 

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If you didn't know the answer to that question before you posted it, and you thought this place was the BEST place to get an answer...well, you probably shouldn't be running your own affairs, is all I can say.
 

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If you didn't know the answer to that question before you posted it, and you thought this place was the BEST place to get an answer...well, you probably shouldn't be running your own affairs, is all I can say.

I'm not
 

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Then it's all good. Ask your caregivers and they'll set you straight, I'm sure.
 

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I'm locking this thread since no one on the forum is qualified to give psychiatric advice. Even if we did have psychiatrists posting on the forum, this isn't a clinical atmosphere and it would be unethical for them to give advice. Please, folks, don't ask for medical or psychiatric advice on the forum.
 
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