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  1. #11
    just a vessel EJCC's Avatar
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    Great thread.

    I'm going to answer this as "What have you learned about yourself from the forum" instead of "What have you learned about yourself through MBTI", because I have a hard time separating my MBTI-related personal growth from my overall growth as a person since I joined, because I discovered it when I was a rising high school senior and now I'm a college junior. A lot has happened in my life, you know? And I don't know how different a person I would have been if I never knew about the MBTI.

    I think, since I joined this forum, I've discovered that I'm wiser than I thought. I didn't know before because I wasn't very good at articulating my deepest thoughts and values, but I've gotten very good at that since I joined -- and I think that easy expression of my Fi is why some people on the forum suspect that I could be ENFP. The way that I post -- i.e. stream-of-consciousness with a minimum amount of proofreading and then posting immediately -- is very similar to how I might talk in real life (and it's why I'm not all that eloquent on the forum!), which means that any skill I've gained at self-expression, through this forum, has carried over into my everyday life. Also, the degree of "thinking out loud" that I've done in this process -- especially on the "Ask an ESTJ" thread -- has really allowed me to figure out what my neuroses really are, how I operate, etc. And all the debates on this forum have helped me realize that I always need to pick my battles, and sometimes I just have to let go and let crazy people continue to be crazy. (I'm still learning this lesson btw...)

    I've learned, through my friendships on the forum, that I'm nicer than I think I am. I thought initially that it was just because they "don't know me well enough" to see me in douchebag mode, but then I realized that all the conflict resolution/moderation/avoidance that I do on the forum, I often do in real life as well. (The difference is that I open up to people quicker here because there's no awkwardness.) Because I was such a domineering, obnoxious, and arrogant person up until maybe junior year of high school, I've been actively trying to be a nicer, more level-headed, less hot-tempered, more reasonable, and less irritating person, and the forum has shown me that my efforts are succeeding so far. Obviously it's an ongoing process -- isn't all personal development ongoing? We're all striving to be better -- but it's good to know that I'm, at the very least, on the right track.
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  2. #12
    Senior Member King sns's Avatar
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    This is a good thread, and I don't know where to start.

    I've learned that the hard shell that I developed in teen-hood was good for some things, but it isn't going to work forever.

    What people think of you is so varied that it doesn't have any weight, unless you've known them for years and years. The "shortnsweet" experts if you will- and some of them know more about me than I know about myself. And of course, I am the ultimate expert. (Applies to others as well- what I think of them doesn't matter.)

    I need a lot of alone time (to think/ absorb things) to be happy. (I found this out indirectly- this site makes me evaluate my own habits outside of the site too- I guess that's one benefit of this site- more self analysis.)

    I thought I was more present moment, but I'm actually quite distracted, thinking of three or four things at once. I'm a bit bewildered and daydreamy a lot of the time.

    Speaking of that, I think and over analyze too much.

    I'm very sensitive. (Again, indirectly, that was an epiphany one day.)

    How I act under stress and how to combat it.

    The terrible things that I want to suppress are kind of a package deal with my best qualities, (which will be suppressed as well if I don't acknowledge the whole thing.) And they aren't as terrible as I was making them out to be.

    Nobody is more important than the other, and we all fight our own battles. (The site helped internalize it.)

    These are the general things that pop into mind first.

    Other random adjectives that pop into mind: (Most I would have said walking in here, but have a better understanding of how they all work together now.)

    creative, tired, short attention span, lazy, smart, haphazard, procrastinator, short temper, perceptive, charming, individualist, empathic, moody, dreamer, broken, selfish, independent, funny, and lucky.
    06/13 10:51:03 five sounds: you!!!
    06/13 10:51:08 shortnsweet: no you!!
    06/13 10:51:12 shortnsweet: go do your things and my things too!
    06/13 10:51:23 five sounds: oh hell naw
    06/13 10:51:55 shortnsweet: !!!!
    06/13 10:51:57 shortnsweet: (cries)
    06/13 10:52:19 RiftsWRX: You two are like furbies stuck in a shoe box

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    Senior Member Synapse's Avatar
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    I have sampled the vista of exquisite energy signatures that visit this forum and in that sharing of energy I have seen a glimpse into the lives and lives of mighty extraordinary individuals who are on their way to their individuation process as we know it.

    I'm pretty sure I learned something somewhere somehow about myself too.

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    Senior Member Lightyear's Avatar
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    By talking to people via PM on this site I have learnt so much about different lives, experiences and backgrounds. I have also met two amazing individuals in person because of this site.

    I have learnt that though I like to analyze even I think there can be too much navel-gazing going on, go out into the world and experience life people, instead of overthinking things and rolling over the same stone again and again!

    I have realised that I get on remarkably well with types that are quite different from me (for example ESTPs) but sometimes find people of my own type or similar types exhausting (I really don't like the apocalyptic "Woe is me!" attitude in some INFxs)

    I have started to truly understand how different people are and I admire the talents that I don't possess (For example I am generally unaware of my environment so well-developed Se is like magic to me, a highly sensitive Ninja superpower!)

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    I've recognized my weakness of procrastination (not only on boring work, but on projects as well) as being part of my Perceiver preference; and I learnt that my improvising ability/flexibility is the shining side of the same coin.
    "Ps need external pressure to be productive" - I've tried out external pressure and it works very well. I've learnt to ask for external pressure, just by telling hubby "I want to get this ready by then."
    I've learnt that staring at a blank piece of paper is the best way to kill my Ne-driven imagination, and going out for a walk, do boring manual work,... is the best way to revive it. I've learnt to steer it a little bit, such that it generates ideas about the current novel instead of all new stories.
    In short, I stepped up my production rate of finished novels. If I ever become a real writer, it'll be thanks to the forum/MBTI.

    Edit: and I also learnt what I've wanted to learn when I came to the forum: create different, cool, realistic characters for my novels. What Lightyear said: Se superpower!
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    That most of the stuff other people value or rationalize (like the OP) has very little in common with me and my motivations or how I care about things. Maybe I shouldn't post this cause someone will think I'm being an asshole, but it's how I feel most of the time, damit. It's not good or bad, I guess, just uncomfortable sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little_Sticks View Post
    That most of the stuff other people value or rationalize (like the OP) has very little in common with me and my motivations or how I care about things. Maybe I shouldn't post this cause someone will think I'm being an asshole, but it's how I feel most of the time, damit. It's not good or bad, I guess, just uncomfortable sometimes.
    Perhaps you would like to belong. Perhaps you would like to find those like yourself to belong to. But instead you find those who are different and this makes you feel uncomfortable.

    Is that right?

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    I have learnt that instead of always redirecting my opinion to that of others to please them and to be accepted more, I can be actually pride of who I am and my ability to do the right thing so I can look at myself in the mirror in the morning and not be disgusted by what I see.

  9. #19


    I have learned that, for me, giving up on my dreams is tantamount to giving up on myself.
    I've learned that I know how to fail gracefully.
    I've learned to tap into my curiosity.
    I've learned to be more confident in my ability to well in life.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
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    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

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