INTP
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would be nice to hear what other people think about these
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J types = visual fixation( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_(visual) ) first -> open eyes for alternatives within the context of the fixation.
P types = "open eyes" -> visual fixation.
unconsciously other way around(3rd/4th functions, more when not trained). unconscious fixation "guides" conscious experience, but is repressed to some extend, when possible. when getting closer to shadow(unconscious), its harder to repress the unconscious fixation.
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Si = explicit synaptic "judging"(*of whether info continues its path towards) -> direct conscious experience from inside.
Ni = implicit synaptic "judging"* -> indirect conscious experience through "metaphor" regions of brain, only what comes out from metaphor regions comes to conscious. repression of the direct info from inside, but still partly comes out from metaphor regions.
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"the conscious constantly forgets" -Jung(?)
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symbolic content can be either emotion, gut feelings or other content that cannot be verbalized, but can be understood.
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all unconscious/repressed content can come out(or "leak from") from brain regions(like angular gyrus that is contributing to this effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect ) that combine info from different brain areas thought symbolic comparison. sort of thought synesthesia, where the repressed unconscious content mixes with conscious content. comparing symbolic images of the conscious mind to symbolic images of unconscious/repressed content and creating associations between them. these associations comes to conscious(only? or partly?), because the symbolic isnt understood by conscious mind well.
-> reason why the unconscious can only be seen thought symbolic?
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conscious mind is smart about external world, but stupid/forgetting of internal world. unconscious mind = smart about internal and stupid about external.
conscious and unconscious doesent understand each other in other ways than through associations between the symbolic images of conscious mind and unconscious, that are being compared by association regions(like angular gyrus).
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ideas are formed from this comparison of symbolic contents -> associations between the conscious and unconscious symbolic content creates the idea.
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J types = visual fixation( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_(visual) ) first -> open eyes for alternatives within the context of the fixation.
P types = "open eyes" -> visual fixation.
unconsciously other way around(3rd/4th functions, more when not trained). unconscious fixation "guides" conscious experience, but is repressed to some extend, when possible. when getting closer to shadow(unconscious), its harder to repress the unconscious fixation.
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Si = explicit synaptic "judging"(*of whether info continues its path towards) -> direct conscious experience from inside.
Ni = implicit synaptic "judging"* -> indirect conscious experience through "metaphor" regions of brain, only what comes out from metaphor regions comes to conscious. repression of the direct info from inside, but still partly comes out from metaphor regions.
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"the conscious constantly forgets" -Jung(?)
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symbolic content can be either emotion, gut feelings or other content that cannot be verbalized, but can be understood.
--------------
all unconscious/repressed content can come out(or "leak from") from brain regions(like angular gyrus that is contributing to this effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect ) that combine info from different brain areas thought symbolic comparison. sort of thought synesthesia, where the repressed unconscious content mixes with conscious content. comparing symbolic images of the conscious mind to symbolic images of unconscious/repressed content and creating associations between them. these associations comes to conscious(only? or partly?), because the symbolic isnt understood by conscious mind well.
-> reason why the unconscious can only be seen thought symbolic?
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conscious mind is smart about external world, but stupid/forgetting of internal world. unconscious mind = smart about internal and stupid about external.
conscious and unconscious doesent understand each other in other ways than through associations between the symbolic images of conscious mind and unconscious, that are being compared by association regions(like angular gyrus).
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ideas are formed from this comparison of symbolic contents -> associations between the conscious and unconscious symbolic content creates the idea.