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Brains of gay men similar to heterosexual women

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This type thing, tell me you're meaning ['body']type in those instances...

Huh, haven't you heard of this term? You know... types, as in you reject someone and say "you're not my type" (say). Could be the style, or personality type, or (probably) body type... or all, for that matter.
 

Qre:us

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My dear sweet uninformed child I have spent the last four years of my life reading these articles (please refer to earlier posts on this issue). I even offered to provide references twice. If you'd actually read the original study and not the one that the L.A. Times diluted down to utter garbage, you'd have seen that the study itself was based on years of others people's work on the very same issue (see references).

This proves what...exactly? I don't think I've ever made any comment that contradicts that.

Point please, point.

Apparently, this is not a field of inquiry you've actually been paying much attention to. :D

When you get to graduate school, you'll FINALLY learn what critical inquiry is all about. (although, I suspect a lot of it is through the lens of NOT understanding what entails scientific investigation and study, but, rather philosophy). See you on the other side, girlie! :D

If you're too slow to recognize the Kiersey dimensions for what they are

It's Kinsey. Kiersey is tempermants.

--behavior--there's nothing I can do for you.

I already said Kinsey asks about sexual history, experience (i.e., behaviours) BUT ALSO desires, which are, by the strictest definition, NOT behaviours.

My whole counter re: this behaviour issue, has been to this original previous remark of yours, which is highly naive (the bolded):
And, yes, btw the original studies were about homosexual behavior (homosexuality can only be studied by studying behavior). That's all you can look at. If you think there's any other way to assess homosexuality please take a moment to consider the meaning of the term.

Btw, homosexuality, is the sexual attraction to, AND/OR sexual behaviours with, another of the same-sex. A guy can be a virgin and still identify himself as gay. Are you doing well in your classes?


Other examples of your naivete:
There were several men that had identified themselves as being involved in the "drag" community, for starters. Dressing in women's clothing and putting on full makeup with the intention of passing one's self off as a woman is one objective way to assess behavior as effeminate.

Effeminate person = drag character

Regardless, now, I'll ask. Prove it. That Kinsey [and the literature/field] ONLY evaluates homosexuality through ONLY behaviour.

You clearly have a bug up your behind over this issue. No amount of reason is going to change that and you're getting boring. I'm done.

You kept saying you were done a long time ago. My fascination now with continuing is understanding why a person would so fervently hold to their side, when they are wrong.....
 

Qre:us

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Huh, haven't you heard of this term? You know... types, as in you reject someone and say "you're not my type" (say). Could be the style, or personality type, or (probably) body type... or all, for that matter.

Why would selection based on type be "or" for a romantic, sexual partner? That's my question. What's your justification that people really ONLY just choose their partner on an OR type evaluation of type (versus, AND)? If a personality type is attractive to someone, what makes a person choose them NOT say, as a friend, but, romantic, sexual partner? I.e., why isn't their gender important?
 

auriel

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The article doesn't surprise me and probably has a lot of validity to it. But I've never known what to make of this whole 'verbal skills' thing. I'm a straight male, and (according to others) very well spoken, especially for an introvert. And despite not being that competitive and more outwardly emotional than most guys (I cry easily, for one, but that could just be the F preference) I`m generally pretty masculine.

I guess there's an exception to every rule, as Jung himself said...
 

bcubchgo

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I think gay males are simply confused people - probably living a life of guilt, because they fell for other males, and not realized that it was because it's not because they're attracted to 'males' but attracted to a 'person' of their type. You often find homosexual pairs sticking to the same partner (throughout). That person could easily have been a woman. In this way, I would think gay males could be attracted to females... of their particular type. Possibly then, it affects their brain chemicals that... in the long-run.

You claim to be an NT and you don't realize how silly this post is? :blush:
 

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I'd imagine so. Even in the MBTI sense. Gay males tend more toward the Feeling preference in my experience.
I totally disagree with that and really the majority of gay guys I know are'nt at all feminine.
 
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Let's all ... .. revive threads from over a year ago and then hold people accountable for outdated articles and perceptions .. ?

In any case, I'd still believe what I said to be true if MBTI actually had much merit. When facebook MBTI tests were all the rage, my dude gay friends nearly (but not universally) tested as Feelers. And that's pretty much the only validity that I have--anecdotal.

You claim to be an NT and you don't realize how silly this post is? :blush:

Do go on. Please explain what you mean here :popc1:
 

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Just clarifying bolgna person that I did't revive the thread in case that wasn't clear..I get that people only speak from their own experiences. I was too but yeah..I defintely believe some "people" are more femine or masculine than others but I don't think it is a b&w straight/ gay or gender thing.
 

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See just while we're on this if a chick fancied me or loved me for my "feminine side" I'd dump them.
 

Lady_X

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wth does that even mean lark?
 

Lark

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Which comment? The one about feminine side?

In my reading of Jung's anima and animus if a woman is attracted to a feminine male or feminine traits in a male then they are seeking externally something which they have projected out from their inner world, no relationship based on that is going to last or be satisfactory to either person involved.

Yes, I do think male and female traits exist in everyone, at least psychologically, no I'm not effeminate.
 

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See just while we're on this if a chick fancied me or loved me for my "feminine side" I'd dump them.

If you acted like a girl all the time, I'd dump you.

... But typically I think the phrase is used loosely just to mean you're "considerate and/or sensitive." It's kind of a sloppy term.
 
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