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Erratic "Straight" Behavior

Kangol

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Vulgarity is part of low culture.

And low culture can best be understood in relation to high culture.

High culture sets us free while low culture diminishes us.

Low culture is extremely profitable. So it is no surprise it is extremely popular.

And if you want to be popular, if you want to belong, you adopt the manners and mores of low culture.

So low culture is piped at us from every direction - from television, from the pop music industry, from the pornography industry, from the drug industry and from youth culture.

Low culture is big business.

But at its heart is a hatred of high culture.

At its heart low culture harbours a deep ressentiment towards high culture, and so takes every opportunity to birsmirch it.

The constant and never ending reference to, "Ass", here, and now a whole thread devoted to, "Ass", demonstrate the passion to dirty high culture.

Low culture knows it is dirty, it even thinks sexuality is dirty, so it is on a compulsive and never ending quest to make high culture as dirty as itself.

And how successful it has been.

Did you read the thread at all or did you want to tell everyone how the entire breadth of human culture throughout history can be simplified to "low" and "high" culture and works like a bad Palahniuk interpretation?
 

Mole

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Did you read the thread at all or did you want to tell everyone how the entire breadth of human culture throughout history can be simplified to "low" and "high" culture and works like a bad Palahniuk interpretation?

If it is true we perceive by making distinctions and all distinctions are arbitrary, then you can have no complaint about my distinction between low and high culture.

On the other hand you may simply be a victim of low culture and so have become infected with ressentiment.

This is a painful condition and leads to attacking others like a mad dog.

Yes, ressentiment is like rabies - it's infectious - and like swine fever it can be spread by contact.

The only cure is a three months course of high culture - but do take pains to complete the whole course for the whole three months, otherwise pockets of low culture may survive and proliferate.

Gesundheit!
 

Kangol

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If it is true we perceive by making distinctions and that all distinctions are arbitrary, then you can have no complaint about my distinction between low and high culture.
This logic instantly validates either me criticizing your disdain for following thread courtesy or the elimination of all criticism. I can't have a complaint about your complaining about something totally off topic?

On the other hand you may simply be a victim of low culture and so have become infected with ressentiment.

This is a painful condition and leads to attacking others like a mad dog.

Yes, ressentiment is like rabies - it's infectious.

And like swine fever it can be spread by contact.

The only cure is a three months course of high culture - but do take pains to complete the whole course for the whole three months, otherwise pockets of low culture will survive and proliferate.

Gesundheit!

There are a few things this has taught me:
1) You are in love with your own voice.
2) You are an idiot.
 

Mole

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This logic instantly validates either me criticizing your disdain for following thread courtesy or the elimination of all criticism. I can't have a complaint about your complaining about something totally off topic?

There are a few things this has taught me:
1) You are in love with your own voice.
2) You are an idiot.

Accusing me of being off topic is usually the fall back position of my critics.

And it's true - I am in love with my own voice - and you can hear my voice, and I can hear yours, by typing, "shortus", into Skype.

And it's true - I have been called an idiot before - so it must be true.

Yet no one has called me an idiot savant - so the jury is still out on that one.
 

Athenian200

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Vulgarity is part of low culture.

And low culture can best be understood in relation to high culture.

High culture sets us free while low culture diminishes us.

Low culture is extremely profitable. So it is no surprise it is extremely popular.

And if you want to be popular, if you want to belong, you adopt the manners and mores of low culture.

So low culture is piped at us from every direction - from television, from the pop music industry, from the pornography industry, from the drug industry and from youth culture.

Low culture is big business.

But at its heart is a hatred of high culture.

At its heart low culture harbours a deep ressentiment towards high culture, and so takes every opportunity to birsmirch it.

The constant and never ending reference to, "Ass", here, and now a whole thread devoted to, "Ass", demonstrate the passion to dirty high culture.

Low culture knows it is dirty, it even thinks sexuality is dirty, so it is on a compulsive and never ending quest to make high culture as dirty as itself.

And how successful it has been.

I'm curious... what is high culture? Where can it be found? Is it known by any other names?
 

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It can be found, mate, in the Canon and in the hearts of all those who love truth and beauty.

I don't know what a Canon is besides a brand of printer, but I'll try looking in the hearts of those who love truth and beauty. Thanks. :)
 

Mole

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I don't know what a Canon is besides a brand of printer, but I'll try looking in the hearts of those who love truth and beauty. Thanks. :)

The Canon is simply those things that have been found to be true and beautiful.

And yes, these are the hearts to look into.
 

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It's a conscious choice one makes his/her preference. When that choice is made and secured. It doesn't really matter what you do anymore.

Incorrect...

IJ TRANSGENDER - Introduction

Homosexual behaviour can be a choice, but homosexuality - being predominantly homosexual, isn't. In the vast majority of cases it's present from very young ages, when, if a conscious choice were being made, it would surely be the one that doesn't get them bullied and ostracized.

Victor - high culture can include humour and sexuality... the three are not mutually exclusive...
 

Mole

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Victor - high culture can include humour and sexuality... the three are not mutually exclusive...

What!

High culture can include humour and sexuality - no one ever told me that!

Do you mean to tell me that high culture can be funny and sexy?

It seems high culture is overflowing with all the goodies - and it's good for you as well.

I have been told high culture nourishes the soul - but who would have guessed it tickles the funny bone as well - and who would have guessed that high culture is not only funny but is so hot, hot, hot - it sizzles?

High culture has been hiding its light under a bushel and indeed it seems it has a bushel of light to hide.

It's true, my date last night giggled and sizzled, and oddly enough, loves high culture.

If only I had discovered this earlier - it's been a secret well kept.

But the cat is out of the bag now - and it is the cat of high culture - sizzling with good humour.
 

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I don't know what a Canon is besides a brand of printer, but I'll try looking in the hearts of those who love truth and beauty. Thanks. :)

The Western Canon by Harold Bloom is a good book to read. Interesting.
 

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Yeah alright, enough with the sarcasm already, very impressive, sir.

I just meant that the way you were painting it, seemed like you were saying that any behaviour that stemmed primarily from wanting to have a laugh or talk about sex, was "low culture".

I guess I was kinda testing you out to see whether the lines in your head between the two were particularly arbitrary... what makes something one thing or the other to you? How is Frasier Crane's witty quip about the genitalia any different from or superior to Snoop's references to oral sex, for example?

I guess I'm very wary of what seems to me like placing different cultures and subcultures on a hierarchy of worthiness and judging their members according to this hierarchy, quite often based on highly subjective personal tastes that are used to dismiss entire communities.
 

Mole

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I guess I was kinda testing you out to see whether the lines in your head between the two were particularly arbitrary... what makes something one thing or the other to you? How is Frasier Crane's witty quip about the genitalia any different from or superior to Snoop's references to oral sex, for example?

I guess I'm very wary of what seems to me like placing different cultures and subcultures on a hierarchy of worthiness and judging their members according to this hierarchy, quite often based on highly subjective personal tastes that are used to dismiss entire communities.

I think this is a very good question.

And of course taste is subjective.

Yet over long periods of time worthiness becomes apparent.

And worthiness is hierarchical as some things are more worthy than others.

And as I don't believe in cultural relativism, I see some communities are more worthy than others.

Of course I hasten to add that each individual is worthy of all the human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
 

The Grand Chameleon

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yours. why would i refer to myself when the topic is about the creation of the thread?
i see no point in the creation of this one other than to rant.
I was confused regarding whether or not you felt the point of creating this thread was for you to rant. But there's no need for you to clarify anymore as our "back and forth" is irrelevant to the post, and such dialogue isn't useful to me.

Again, back to the original topic, it is safe to say you believe this is normal male behavior?
 

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I would like to make the disclaimer that I make no propaganda against homosexuals with this thread. I only seek to understand why some people would do as explained in the following:

Some straight acquaintances I personally know enjoy "mooning" one another so much so that they did it for an hour while camping in the middle of nowhere. Keep in mind these are all males. I may understand the humor in a single mooning with clever timing, but for an entire hour? They find humor in acting like such towards one another all the time. They have sent pictures of their own genitalia to one another to incite a laugh. I fear one day the "playful bickering" will escalate up to anal sex, with the recipient shouting, "oh man, you got me good!"

I inquired about it once. One of them explained, "Well, if you were comfortable with your sexuality you wouldn't mind."

I then responded, "I am comfortable, which is why I don't feel the need to verify/validate like you do."

Where does this come from? Why do (seemingly) straight males act this way towards one another?

Eh, not my cup of tea.
 

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its outlandish...made popular by tv and associated with partying and in-the-moment living...elicits a diverse set of reactions from people

in about 6 months or 6 years they will be like duuuuude...we were so fucked back then and delete all memorabilia pertaining to
 

avolkiteshvara

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TGC, I know what you are saying.

Short, infrequent displays of cock, ass, or BALLZ is normal hetrosexual behavior; done it myself plenty. But a sustained long lasting display of goodies implies something else.

I don't think they are gay or exhibiting gay tendancies. I think it is probably something deeper related to the way they were raised and their family culture. Something is off and they don't know where certain boundaries lie; the point at which something isn't funny anymore. One might call it a personality defect.

Just my 2 cents and dime store psychology.
 
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