Balancing an overbearing Ne out with Fi

[Amargith]

Any concrete suggestions on how that works? I get the theory behind it, but I'd be interested in hearing from people who have actually done this.

 

[mlittrell]

well i notice that ENFPs that have the most balanced Ne and Fi have a very well developed Te. The way i like to think of the tertiary function is like a translator between two scholars that speak different languages, Ne and Fi. the better Te translates the better Ne and Fi work together...

 

[entropie]

well i notice that ENFPs that have the most balanced Ne and Fi have a very well developed Te. The way i like to think of the tertiary function is like a translator between two scholars that speak different languages, Ne and Fi. the better Te translates the better Ne and Fi work together...

That's a cool image.

To give my fair share of things: Balancing out anyone by force is not possible.

 

[miss fortune]

shit... I'm doomed!

 

[entropie]

shit... I'm doomed!

No, you just need more hope. My anti-scientology sister

 

[miss fortune]

I prefer to avoid being concerned about certain things like "lack of Fi"... why bother worrying about silly things like that when there's a WORLD to explore!

and Xenu just isn't my man (how can anyone take something seriously that reminds you so incredibly namewise of Xena?!? )

 

[entropie]

I prefer to avoid being concerned about certain things like "lack of Fi"... why bother worrying about silly things like that when there's a WORLD to explore!

and Xenu just isn't my man (how can anyone take something seriously that reminds you so incredibly namewise of Xena?!? )

I like Xena, she know what she wants

 

[miss fortune]

and Lucy Lawless plays the Madam Dominatrix in Eurotrip!

really, I think that Xena could be quite the dom if the opportunity presented itself

 

[entropie]

You really should start to talk more german friendly. I like to talk in riddles myself, but I cant defend myself against american slang .

Best role of Lucy Lawless was in Battlestar though. I still do not understand why they do put hot woman and straight Generals in Sciene-Fiction Shows; it totally corrupted my youth

 

[miss fortune]

sorry- I was refering to sado-masochism there, saying that Lucy Lawless with a whip could be rather formidable!

and are you sure that they didn't do it in order to corrupt your youth? I grew up watching television programs about murders and other crimes... my parents had a fondness for law and order!

 

[entropie]

I remember the first night when my father took me watching Terminator. That was a night, hard to fall asleep afterwards . And I remember when I was 12 and watched my first porn. That's about it of the milestones of my film history .

I'll go to bed now, have to participate in a university lecture at 12 o clock which is in 5:30 hours.

See you around, lovely not-telling drunkard

 

[miss fortune]

Goodnight, entropie... have a nice lecture tommorrow!


and thanks to the thread hijack we all see a working example of runaway Ne!

 

[Amargith]

well i notice that ENFPs that have the most balanced Ne and Fi have a very well developed Te. The way i like to think of the tertiary function is like a translator between two scholars that speak different languages, Ne and Fi. the better Te translates the better Ne and Fi work together...

That sounds interesting, as Te was actually on my list to improve. I suck at organizing...big time. Could you give me a for instance though as to how you see Te translating for Ne and Fi? I have trouble putting abstracts into practise untill I get a for instance

 

[mlittrell]

That sounds interesting, as Te was actually on my list to improve. I suck at organizing...big time. Could you give me a for instance though as to how you see Te translating for Ne and Fi? I have trouble putting abstracts into practise untill I get a for instance

ok heres an example: if you dont have Te well developed then you will notice a split between Ne and Fi. I notice that emotionally unintelligent ENFPs tend to come up with oodles of great ideas, but they cant pull all of those little ideas together to make a big idea because of a lack of Te. it really pulls an ENFP together as a person. ties all the loose ends i guess you could say. it gives them focus. it also allows them to deal with confrontation quite a bit easier. really though, what i said about it pulling the ideas together, is what is really important.

 

[Amargith]

That makes sense I guess It's my least favorite activity in a project as the exciting part is over, but I can see the need for it. Any ideas on how to 'enforce' that on yourself?

 

[mlittrell]

take discrete mathmatics (crazy class) lol. but seriously... i just developed mine by standing back and looking at all my ideas as a whole and pulling them together. many people would argue that this is Ne at work. imho it isn't. notice the standing back part. when T's make decisions they stand back from situations and logically deduce what to do. thats a quick and dirty description but i hope you see where im getting at. if you look on google for "extroverted thinking ENFP" there should be sites explaining the Te in regards to an ENFP in which case you can intuitivly figure it out. if you cant find a link ill find one for you

 

[Nocapszy]

What is "overbearing Ne," exactly?

 

[Amargith]

take discrete mathmatics (crazy class) lol. but seriously... i just developed mine by standing back and looking at all my ideas as a whole and pulling them together. many people would argue that this is Ne at work. imho it isn't. notice the standing back part. when T's make decisions they stand back from situations and logically deduce what to do. thats a quick and dirty description but i hope you see where im getting at. if you look on google for "extroverted thinking ENFP" there should be sites explaining the Te in regards to an ENFP in which case you can intuitivly figure it out. if you cant find a link ill find one for you

Thanks, you've been a great help

What is "overbearing Ne," exactly?

As I understand it, its where you take in all of the world without analyzing it, judging it or selecting what is interesting and discarding what is not or even wrong. I do that with people. I find them so fascinating that they have a lot of credit with me. You have to really hurt me before I start criticising you on purpose.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm still new at this.

 

[Nocapszy]

How could I correct you for wrong when I myself am not familiar with the concept?

Anyway:
It's impossible to take in all the world without analyzing or judging. There are too many laws, and you'd be hard pressed to find a thing you don't have to pay for. Gotta have money for that. Now either you're going to have to make some kind of analysis on where your priorities lie, or you'll burn-out and fall of the face of the earth. Since you haven't yet, I'm guessing that's not an issue, and therefore this can't be a personal problem, though it was advertised that way.

Oh, and on top of those two, you wouldn't even be able to take anything in -- it would all be passing fancy.

The best advice I can give is to continue on the track you've started -- trusting functions.
The rail you need to get off of is the one containing stereotypes.
Study the essence of these functions and you'll be able to figure it all out for yourself. I assure you, reading an online function description, or even worse, and online type description, as alluring as they are (and therein lies the appeal of typology marketing) is absolutely the most dangerous alley any newbie can find himself in.

 

[Amargith]

How could I correct you for wrong when I myself am not familiar with the concept?

Anyway:
It's impossible to take in all the world without analyzing or judging. There are too many laws, and you'd be hard pressed to find a thing you don't have to pay for. On top of that, you wouldn't even be able to take anything in -- it would all be passing fancy.

The best advice I can give is to continue on the track you've started -- trusting functions.
The rail you need to get off of is the one containing stereotypes.
Study the essence of these functions and you'll be able to figure it all out for yourself. I assure you, reading an online function description, or even worse, and online type description, as alluring as they are (and therein lies the appeal of typology marketing) is absolutely the most dangerous alley any newbie can find himself in.

I was referring to Mlittrell with regards to the corrections

And thnx for the advice, I am trying to absorb the stereotypes and putting them into practice irl. I already sent the test to all my friends, so I can see how those internet pages work irl That's also why I usually ask for concrete examples, when asking here. I'm trying very hard to avoid that trap. Lemme know if I'm not succeeding *grin* And of course, getting to know people here, also helps to see how certain types and functions work irl.

As for the taking in all without judging. I'm not saying its completely possible, but it's what I'm aiming for, often. Never said it was a realistic goal though I'm trying now to find a way to tone that need down and accept reality there.

Considering your rep, I'm pleasantly surprised that you took the time to advise me *smiles* I see you're acting on your resolution to socialize more I look forward to your future posts.