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    Well, prior to MBTI, I found it a few months ago, I would basically tell people what they wanted to hear to get them off my back when something came up without really understanding where they were coming from and tended to just dismiss them as stupid. Not that that's really changed much, but now I know how to dismiss them more easily by hitting where they're most vulnerable... so it's been great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanamori View Post
    Well, prior to MBTI, I found it a few months ago, I would basically tell people what they wanted to hear to get them off my back when something came up without really understanding where they were coming from and tended to just dismiss them as stupid. Not that that's really changed much, but now I know how to dismiss them more easily by hitting where they're most vulnerable... so it's been great.
    Yikes!
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Well, I would probably agree with that. (I was mostly thinking about myself, since that was the question asked.) But it's more useful for the surrounding adults, who will guide the adolescent without necessarily even referring to type.

    for example, I'm sure that practiced teachers already have an informal understanding of type (or aspects of it), recognizing certain groupings of students and what sort of content and presentation will best help them.
    I am a teacher and it's benefited me to no end. What's funny is that most educators have some training (if they practice it) in differentiated instruction but that doesn't always help if you don't even know how to approach the students (especially adolescents)..but even elementary age children. Alot of teachers just say ok more work for me I have to think of different ways to teach this lesson. Maybe they won't do a worksheet they'll do a hands on instead or they'll let them look at a movie or so on..but with no understanding of type they won't really understand why they should and how even knowing their own type would help them be better instructors. Knowing what their expectations are and so on.
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    I learned my type when I was 18. My ENTJ father finally got fed up with the questions and thrust the form into my hands and told me to return it completed.

    I think the results brought more of an aha from him than me. For me the most useful thing was seeing what I already knew about myself written in a form which made holistic sense and gave me a base upon which to build my new theories and developments.

    Personally I'm with my father on this one. Don't type people till they are like teenaged probably around 15-16. It's just not helpful to the psyche to have such a "role model" when your young and inexperienced.
    Looking back, I doubt I would've tested as an INTP until I was 16, 17, or possibly even later. I remember my freshman year of college I took an MBTI test, but I don't remember the results besides being introverted since I didn't know what any of the other stuff meant. I was about halfway into the introvert section and my brother was about 80% of the way. I threw the test results away, so unfortunately, I can't go and find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    I realized after the fact that I had taken a test here and there and was once typed as an ESFJ. I was almost 33 when I started checking out INTPc and realized that I was infact an enfp. From there I searched some forums for some info, and yes the more I looked the more I realized that I am an enfp.

    I have since learned that I married an ENTP, so depending where we are in life each of us has to take turns jumping into the 'J' role, other wise nothing gets done here. We have a house full of half finished projects. My mom is a J and so is his mom.... coming to our house drives them each crazy! (ah sweet revenge )


    Knowing about my type and my husbands type has been well refreshing and has brought a lot of understanding to our relationship and our lives. I know what our personality weaknesses are and I can better predict where we're going.

    I am certain that my daughter is an exfp..... she is a preformer once she's comfortable

    my middle son I would type as an entj,,,, super smart and witty and very candid and gregarious. He's out there. Yet he loves order.....

    my youngest is too smart for his own good and quite the comedian... guessing for now an entp.. his personality is the most like his daddys.


    They're young but since I have such a love for understanding personality and philosophical things I so very much enjoy this.

    Having good timing is a property of Ne. ENTPs and ENFPs tend to be comfortable in just about any social situations because they are well in tune with the atmosphere and know exactly when to speak up. So they undoubtedly are masters of timing.

    Yet again targo, I think you may be slightly over-dramatizing the situation as ENFPs tend to envision more connections than there really are and they do this because their Fi forces them to seek meaning in their lives. This is how they gave rise to mythology. Restless drive for emotional validation that the Fi takes from the inside and the Ne furthermore gives the Fi more material to run wild on. INFPs are our primary mythologians because the Fi is stronger and the Ne is more mythology focused with them than with the ENFPs, as with the ENFPs its focus is rather general, whilst with the INFP it is specifically focused on mythologizing and befooling themselves into believing that their lives have meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Having good timing is a property of Ne. ENTPs and ENFPs tend to be comfortable in just about any social situations because they are well in tune with the atmosphere and know exactly when to speak up. So they undoubtedly are masters of timing.

    Yet again targo, I think you may be slightly over-dramatizing the situation as ENFPs tend to envision more connections than there really are and they do this because their Fi forces them to seek meaning in their lives. This is how they gave rise to mythology. Restless drive for emotional validation that the Fi takes from the inside and the Ne furthermore gives the Fi more material to run wild on. INFPs are our primary mythologians because the Fi is stronger and the Ne is more mythology focused with them than with the ENFPs, as with the ENFPs its focus is rather general, whilst with the INFP it is specifically focused on mythologizing and befooling themselves into believing that their lives have meaning.
    How about we throw this thread a little more off topic...

    or not!:steam:
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Having good timing is a property of Ne. ENTPs and ENFPs tend to be comfortable in just about any social situations because they are well in tune with the atmosphere and know exactly when to speak up. So they undoubtedly are masters of timing.

    Yet again targo, I think you may be slightly over-dramatizing the situation as ENFPs tend to envision more connections than there really are and they do this because their Fi forces them to seek meaning in their lives. This is how they gave rise to mythology. Restless drive for emotional validation that the Fi takes from the inside and the Ne furthermore gives the Fi more material to run wild on. INFPs are our primary mythologians because the Fi is stronger and the Ne is more mythology focused with them than with the ENFPs, as with the ENFPs its focus is rather general, whilst with the INFP it is specifically focused on mythologizing and befooling themselves into believing that their lives have meaning.


    Am I the only one who would prefer this comment to be in a context that I can actually relate to and understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langrenus View Post
    I spoke to an occupational psychologist about this. Her view was that most psychometric tests produce relatively meaningless results before the age of 16 or so - apparently studies have been run on children and teenagers, with the finding being that individuals will provide wildly different answers even across short timeframes as they are either:
    a) unable to completely comprehend what the questions are asking of them (primarily in pre-teens), or
    b) going through such an enormous physical, hormonal and psychological changes that any answers they provide are not stable
    This is basically what my father taught me. He too is a professional.

    Mind you though I know that for one Cafe has typed her children and seems to be fairly sure of most of them. Personally I trust her judgement and she has not wavered much at all. As such perhaps it is possible to type people younger than the 16 kinda ballpark but perhaps you need to be exposed to more of their responses than the test will allow for and that the age helps a person coalesce around their primary preferences?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    Am I the only one who would prefer this comment to be in a context that I can actually relate to and understand?
    Ehhhh it does sound like a case of Ne going off on a tangent of what "good timing" means. SW appears to be talking about timing in the sense of knowing when to bring things up rather than timing for when to bring up MBTI to the younger generation...

    Langrenus, Xander: What the two of you said makes a great deal of sense to me. Administration of tests to kids cannot be too reliable when they don't have a full understanding of the questions... they're also in the process of experimenting in figuring out who they are. Hmmm so is it safe to say such should be left until at least late teens?

    Oh and answering the OP, I've first learnt of MBTI when I was in highschool... I think in my senior year. It was much like what other people have said before... a sudden enlightenment that I'm not a weirdo afterall. However I've never gotten into the theories behind the types until recently. Now that I think about it, knowing my type is only a single connection in understanding myself. It didn't have that much of an impact in my personal development back then... as compare to now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Langrenus, Xander: What the two of you said makes a great deal of sense to me. Administration of tests to kids cannot be too reliable when they don't have a full understanding of the questions... they're also in the process of experimenting in figuring out who they are. Hmmm so is it safe to say such should be left until at least late teens?

    Oh and answering the OP, I've first learnt of MBTI when I was in highschool... I think in my senior year. It was much like what other people have said before... a sudden enlightenment that I'm not a weirdo afterall. However I've never gotten into the theories behind the types until recently. Now that I think about it, knowing my type is only a single connection in understanding myself. It didn't have that much of an impact in my personal development back then... as compare to now.
    I think they have a version of the test that you can give to children...I'm going to check into it.

    I think that schools are starting to give it in high school..(or some version of a personality test) I understand that you didn't get into it until recently (btw I haven't a clue what age you are) but what about the ones that do start to research it? Like some others have said. I think that at such a young age it might hinder more than help. Would you have know then what you know now (that is that knowing your type is only a single component in understanding yourself?)
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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