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    Default Lives of quiet desparation

    It is said that the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

    Do you agree with this? I certainly feel that way at times

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    "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things."

    Look around, it’s everywhere. People are dead inside. Yes. Many are. Is that really surprising given the state of the world? But to me he's pointing out that it's wrong to criticize humanity’s despair, like it's a shortcoming or something they personally did to deserve their despair. He went to Walden Pond to live the good life - not a moral definition but to see and feel the good in life. That changing is within all of us. That's what I focus on.
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    I'm not being funny when I say we're all being driven mad on a mass scale. It's almost like a frequency. A song on the edge of hearing in the quiet moments in the night between sleep and awake you can almost hear enough to make out the details of the words, but not quite. It is ironically funny. But it's not meant to be. Maddening. But then what isnt these days?
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    Yes, and men in the general sense of mankind.
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    I think it's true for the majority of people. Maybe everyone.

    I see the desperateness connected with emptiness or want, which means there are more needs than resources. I think part of the problem is the human tendency to take more than give. It creates a tension and continual imbalance. It is the problem with viewing reality from a single vantage point and having instinctual fears. If there was a way everyone could be fearless and generous, the world would be very different.

    Humanity feels like a complexly connected web of black holes all pulling on each other in a gravitational entanglement, a gridlock of want. There needs to be more suns that shine.

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    Yes, for many live not a life of want and hope, but one of fear. Not everyone gets what they want, and everything is a continuous treadmill march that may suddenly jerk, speed, and fling you off if you're not strong or fast enough. There isn't a guaranteed safety for those who are flung off the rails, and thus, knowing this, they run to carve out a space for themselves in society, just so that they can live at all. Is that not desperation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Grey View Post
    Yes, for many live not a life of want and hope, but one of fear. Not everyone gets what they want, and everything is a continuous treadmill march that may suddenly jerk, speed, and fling you off if you're not strong or fast enough. There isn't a guaranteed safety for those who are flung off the rails, and thus, knowing this, they run to carve out a space for themselves in society, just so that they can live at all. Is that not desperation?
    It's romantic
    I am The Cat; who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me...
    The Cat is a fey, mercurial thing, given to fits of pique, moody silences, and eerie displays.

    But it's just the price I pay
    Destiny is calling me
    Open up my eager eyes
    'Cause I'm Mr. Brightside...


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    It's romantic
    As romantic as a rose is the colour of blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Grey View Post
    As romantic as a rose is the colour of blood.
    You're not blooming anything new on me Earl of gathering shadow. Besides I prefer black roses.
    I am The Cat; who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me...
    The Cat is a fey, mercurial thing, given to fits of pique, moody silences, and eerie displays.

    But it's just the price I pay
    Destiny is calling me
    Open up my eager eyes
    'Cause I'm Mr. Brightside...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Grey View Post
    As romantic as a rose is the colour of blood.
    This phrase is kinda romantic. Blood roses.



    Not to veer too far off topic. I'd also say 'money'. That has a direct correlation to a lot of quiet desperation. And sex. Those are the two things that force interaction and negotiation and therefore suffering.

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