[Type 4] Does Beauty fill you up with sadness?

[BeyondTheGrey]

I have yet to explore that feeling.
I rarely come across something I find to be beautiful.

The question says it all.
Do you feel sad when you come across something so overwhelmingly beautiful?
Why?

 

[Kullervo]

I feel enamoured by beauty in many places, some I would not have considered. My own feelings to the wide world around me, i can walk through a forest and notice a bird perching on a tree stem, light shining through the branches and the contrast of colours reflecting on my face. Is that beauty? I don't know...but if you don't capture the moment you'll never find out. I do feel sad sometimes, sad that I am not beautiful enough to become a part of the landscape I envision, but I have been blessed enough to be human. I can mold myself in a way the birds and branches cannot.

And of course if I did find true beauty, a true epiphany of it, why do you think I'd tell you? Invariably it would be rather X-rated

 

[Kullervo]

"Beauty fill you up"

Let me rephrase that for you in proper English.

"I will fill Beauty up".

 

[CitizenErased]

It all depends on what beauty means for someone. For me, beauty is, in part, what is not "perfect", a mixture between light and shadows. A flower in the middle of a wasteland is way more beautiful for me than a garden with flowers displayed in regular patterns, cut all in the same shape, at the same height. Then I think of natural places, not touched by humans are the most beautiful thing you can experience, and more than making me sad, they fill me with something I can't quite explain. Feeling so small, insignificant, with menial problems compared to all that gigantic truth and magic that I feel I'm made of the same material, I merge with Nature.

The beauty that somehow triggers an emotion similar to sadness is in people. I don't know why. Maybe because it's something that perishes or serves no big purpose, because it's so much about the gestures and the movements that can't be depicted or "stored" in a photograph? I don't know, I'll think about it

 

[Lia_kat]

I find beauty in almost everything, even things other people would find grotesque. The beauty that is profound does not make me sad but more so inspired, grateful that I get to see it and experience it.

 

[Duffy]

I think the fact we can't truly share this experience with another is what makes it sad. You can try, but it's one of those things that wither as soon as it comes into contact. That feeling you've found something profound, but also deeply personal, thus isolating.

Oh and Ditto to what's been mentioned above.

 

[Amargith]

Yes.

And that, in and of itself, often just enhances the Beauty to the point of moving me to tears. It becomes this self-sustaining circle and it is utterly mesmerising

 

[EJCC]

I do often feel sad when I experience beauty, because I frequently feel alone when I experience beauty. Beauty can feel so immense that it renders me irrelevant in the face of it. Beauty can be so intense that I cannot experience it and experience connection with others at the same time. Beauty can, in itself, be lonely, which leads me to absorb that loneliness and be enveloped by it.

Sometimes the reverse happens, where a lonely thing is beautiful entirely because it's lonely. I am moved and inspired by cityscapes, but whenever I'm in a city, I feel completely and utterly alone and disconnected -- even more so than if I were alone in a desert, the only person for a hundred miles each way.


(Not an e4, but I connect very much with 4 when I experience beauty -- take my answer with a grain of salt, but don't totally disqualify it.)

 

[Galena]

Actually...no. Sadness is a still, slowing down kind of feeling. Beauty energizes me instead - it's a feeling of power, possibly even power hunger. I want to get my hands on whatever the source of the beauty is and add my own touch to it, at least explore it until I possess my own copy of it in my mind and senses.

I can relate in a different way to what [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION] says about it feeling isolating - for me, that takes the form of self-contained confidence. Like, I would prefer to experience this alone. Blind faith that I can handle wherever this experience goes. The sense of beauty will keep me alive.

 

[á´…eparted]

No, but other positive things can make me feel sad.

I despise it.

 

[Kheledon]

I have yet to explore that feeling.
I rarely come across something I find to be beautiful.

The question says it all.
Do you feel sad when you come across something so overwhelmingly beautiful?
Why?

Sometimes, yes. I find beautiful anything that powerfully activates my FeNi ego block. I think the Romantics would have called this tendency "appreciation" or "awe" inspired by "the sublime." I love modern art museums, for example, and some of the most objectively hideous pieces can arouse strong emotion in me. If a piece of artwork does that, I call it "beautiful" (even if it's only beautiful in the sense of the powerful emotion the object evokes).

If you're an IEI, though, aesthetics, in general, may be a challenge for you.

"IEIs often exhibit a modest lack of attention to their surrounding physical environment. Often IEIs will place some attention to their physical comfort and physical needs, but are not always aware of the extent of their importance. Though some IEIs may place an extensive focus on their appearance, in the interest of producing an emotional affect (ie seeming elegant, unique, unusual, attractive, or otherwise), most IEIs pay little attention to their surroundings and may persist in disorganized or disheveled living conditions. They may have varyingly large or minimal appreciation for aesthetic concerns."

Socionics Types: IEI-INFp

But, I can safely say, for myself, that some of the most beautiful things on Earth evoke great sadness (or at least tears of joy) from me. Example:

 

[Chrysanthe]

This supposedly "Most Relaxing Music ever" actually is so beautiful yet so so isolating it almost is bringing me to tears. of course there's also the nostalgia factoring in since it was my favourite song to listen to in middle school when I did feel alone, so I could feel even more lonely and intensify the experience.

 

[Silent]

Sadness and beautiful often go hand in hand. I have found lots of sad art that I find quite beautiful. I love the movie Amelie because it is sad, and beautiful and happy all at the same time.

 

[cascadeco]

Hmm, sad? I don't know. Overwhelmed, perhaps. But usually beauty - visual - just makes me intensely grateful and happy, I just soak it in. Smile, am in awe. Stand still and enjoy while it lasts. To be fair I'm speaking mostly of scenes, nature, human creations, throw in lighting and a particular moment and that moment is amazing.

I have experienced tears in movies, or with some music, where the recognition of the beauty and truth and 'rightness' of a particular thing makes sense, and turns to tears, but I don't think it's really tears of sadness. In a very small number of cases there can be beauty in something sad but it's usually tied to some larger scope thing that's as a whole quite wonderful.

 

[indra]

Complexity or immensity does it for me - I cried once of an image of the space shuttle silhouetted against the earth, and another at the end of Saving Private Ryan, when it returns to an old Ryan and zooms out to thousands of graves at the Normandy cemetery. Not an ugly cry or anything, just a tear.

Little pings of emotion here and there, LSD and Modest Mouse get me every time...

 

[Kas]

Yes, sometimes.

I remember a picnic on the bridge of ruined tower in the small town located on the hill. We sat there after it got very dark and there were only lights of the town somewhere far and the stars above us. The scenery with people and this particular moment of my life suddenly hit me so I was lying on the bridge only listening to the melody of the voices.

I can’t describe what was different from so many pretty landscapes I saw in my life. Maybe it’s part of the sadness? That we can’t really understand what happened, what moved us, that it’ll pass and we won’t be able to describe it to anyone? Even now it seems cliché when I wrote about it.

 

[magpie]

Yes, because it moves me. Beauty connects me to a deeper part of my emotions or myself.

 

[Litsnob]

It fills me up with emotion, but not necessarily sadness. It could be joy, peacefulness or something I do not have a word for.

 

[EcK]

no because I'm emotionally stable.

 

[anticlimatic]

As mentioned, the definition of beauty is a bit relative, but fundamentally I think it all comes with a certain element of finite fragility paired with detail and effort (not necessarily conscious effort), to the point where I think beauty as a 'feeling' is really just isomorphic with a sentient awareness of mortality and the fear of death.

Which can be sad, from a certain angle.