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[Type 5] Why I Hate 5w4s!

RaptorWizard

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1. They're too dang touchy-feely and go with what fits their own internal aesthetic model rather than constructing theories from the facts and the inspirations reasoning with its external reality present us with!
2. Uber-emotional people who withdraw from the world because they seek their own inner idealism rather than confronting the outside challenges are weak and will never work to accomplish the great and the impossible!
3. The elegant solution full of subjective rubbish is vastly inferior to the well-developed system of ultimate objectivity!
 

Elfboy

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1. They're too dang touchy-feely and go with what fits their own internal aesthetic model rather than constructing theories from the facts and the inspirations reasoning with its external reality present us with!
2. Uber-emotional people who withdraw from the world because they seek their own inner idealism rather than confronting the outside challenges are weak and will never work to accomplish the great and the impossible!
3. The elegant solution full of subjective rubbish is vastly inferior to the well-developed system of ultimate objectivity!
I take it the 3rd point was sarcasm. if so, I agree with all of these
 

Rasofy

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NFs seem to love that emo side
 

Elfboy

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NFs seem to love that emo side

Depends on the type of emo.
for example, 3w4-ish emo is cool because, while it comes off as dark, brooding and mysterious, it appears stronger on the outside with a "I keep my problems to myself" sort of mentality.
in contrast, 5w4 emo is nihilistic and defeatist, almost like the person is withering away in silent anguish and has resigned themselves to an unfortunate fate they believe they cannot escape.
 

Siúil a Rúin

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I love all the exclamation marks in the OP.
 

Starry

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This has happened to me before...


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I've written about one particular incident on the site many times always making reference to my belief that the 'bus-throwing' had occurred because this individual had thought I had done something wrong which warranted this treatment in this individual's mind. The problem with my line of thinking in this case was...even if I had actually done what the individual believed I had done...(which I hadn't btw)...even then throwing me under the bus would have been a massive over-reaction. My desire to empathize and basically excuse this individual's behavior is made out to be even more foolish when I consider the realization I had...that this all would have taken place regardless! iow, believing I did something wrong only made throwing me under the bus easier...And was by no means the deciding factor.

The long and short of it is... someone I was incredibly close to sold me out faster than an average person could/can actually say 'sold out'... rather than suffer any embarrassment/conflict they believed they would suffer due to their association with me... that never manifested and never would have for more reasons than I can count.

I don't know how common this type of thing is though... but acknowledge that what seems like the necessary traits to make this type of massive relationship ending/hurtful thing possible are in place. But again idk. [edit: since INTP is the most likely to have this type...I would like to say that this individual was NOT an INTP]
 

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those who hate are curse to become so
bring it! life's too short to have everyone like you. enemies make life far more satsifying :devil:
 

prplchknz

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bring it! life's too short to have everyone like you. enemies make life far more satsifying :devil:

I don't give two craps if everyone likes me to the contrary, i just don't like when a whole group is slandered. individuals being slandered, cuz they suck that's fine and if they deserve it of course.
 

Elfboy

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I don't give two craps if everyone likes me to the contrary, i just don't like when a whole group is slandered. individuals being slandered, cuz they suck that's fine and if they deserve it of course.

whatever, you're too sensitive
 

Galena

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Wait wait so the thread is serious?
 

SolitaryWalker

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1. They're too dang touchy-feely and go with what fits their own internal aesthetic model rather than constructing theories from the facts and the inspirations reasoning with its external reality present us with!
2. Uber-emotional people who withdraw from the world because they seek their own inner idealism rather than confronting the outside challenges are weak and will never work to accomplish the great and the impossible!
3. The elegant solution full of subjective rubbish is vastly inferior to the well-developed system of ultimate objectivity!

It won't be long until you identify yourself as a 5w4 again. How long has it been since the last time you did that? Two weeks or so?
 

Mal12345

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1. They're too dang touchy-feely and go with what fits their own internal aesthetic model rather than constructing theories from the facts and the inspirations reasoning with its external reality present us with!
2. Uber-emotional people who withdraw from the world because they seek their own inner idealism rather than confronting the outside challenges are weak and will never work to accomplish the great and the impossible!
3. The elegant solution full of subjective rubbish is vastly inferior to the well-developed system of ultimate objectivity!

Sounds like you're onto something there. I'll be expecting to hear about your awesome cancer cure soon.
 

Rasofy

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Depends on the type of emo.
for example, 3w4-ish emo is cool because, while it comes off as dark, brooding and mysterious, it appears stronger on the outside with a "I keep my problems to myself" sort of mentality.
Interesting. Reminds me of FF8 Squall. Have you played FF8?

in contrast, 5w4 emo is nihilistic and defeatist, almost like the person is withering away in silent anguish and has resigned themselves to an unfortunate fate they believe they cannot escape.
That's the way INTJs get themselves banned, usually.
 

RaptorWizard

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It won't be long until you identify yourself as a 5w4 again. How long has it been since the last time you did that? Two weeks or so?

Just because I hate 5w4s doesn't mean I'm not possibly one of them!

You seem to base your conclusions more on what people say than with the context (and I could be wrong, but it looks that way to me).
 

Mal12345

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Just because I hate 5w4s doesn't mean I'm not possibly one of them!

You seem to base your conclusions more on what people say than with the context (and I could be wrong, but it looks that way to me).

Fuck it, I don't care. I'm changing my etype.
 

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Depends on the type of emo.
for example, 3w4-ish emo is cool because, while it comes off as dark, brooding and mysterious, it appears stronger on the outside with a "I keep my problems to myself" sort of mentality.
in contrast, 5w4 emo is nihilistic and defeatist, almost like the person is withering away in silent anguish and has resigned themselves to an unfortunate fate they believe they cannot escape.

Let's be best friends plz
 
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