# Thread: An INFP with an enneagram 8?

1. Originally Posted by Artemistry
Yep. That's why I deny (defy? ) the statement that it's impossible to be and Eight and an INFP. Perhaps rare, but not impossible. Otherwise, I don't really exist...hmmm...maybe I don't...
It's two different systems, apples and oranges. The probabilities are against such a thing, but that's all. In the InQ you could easily be an Idealist-Realist, the second-most uncommon type in that system of 5 types because they are almost at opposite ends of the spectrum. It would be interesting to see how you score on the Ansir quiz. For example:

2. I checked it out, but there doesn't seem to be an explanation on how the scoring is actually done...perhaps you can enlighten me?

3. And, I would agree that I'm Idealist-Realist - I've been called both; I seek to keep myself grounded in reality, while striving toward an ideal.

4. Originally Posted by Artemistry
I checked it out, but there doesn't seem to be an explanation on how the scoring is actually done...perhaps you can enlighten me?
You give the answers thusly, on a scale of -3 to 3.

Not Me = -3
Mostly Not Me = -2
Somewhat Not Me = -1
Somewhat Me = 1
Mostly Me = 2
This is me = 3

I have an answer key, but there should be an online key somewhere. I think it was taken down. So you'll have to pm me your answers or post it here for scoring.

5. Originally Posted by Mal+
You give the answers thusly, on a scale of -3 to 3.

Not Me = -3
Mostly Not Me = -2
Somewhat Not Me = -1
Somewhat Me = 1
Mostly Me = 2
This is me = 3

I have an answer key, but there should be an online key somewhere. I think it was taken down. So you'll have to pm me your answers or post it here for scoring.
I mean the self-scoring key may have been taken down. You can always use the key posted here. It's more difficult without self-scoring. But I can also synopsize the type that you score highest on, since you don't have the type-descriptions either.

6. There might have been some advantage in not revealing your ideas about your types from the get-go.

7. Originally Posted by Artemistry
Not much because I'm not as unhealthy as all that. However, I was considered disobedient and defiant as a child (I got my mouth washed out with soap for talking back; slapped for asking questions). I also went to summary courts martial in the US Navy for losing my temper at my supervisor and yelling at him. I have at times, feel some scorn or disdain for others, and often don't apologize when others think it's necessary - I often don't feel guilt where others might. I also dislike apologies from others - my view is that they are manipulative ways to get off the hook; the person ought to learn and not do it again, and strive to make right what they effed up. I like to be in control; I like to be in charge.
I'd like to think that the decade of inner work (therapy, self-education in psychology and spirituality, work with a spiritual teacher, meditation, etc) has moved me more toward a healthier Eight - and now that I know more about the Enneagram, I can pinpoint those areas that are in need of more work. To me, that purpose of the Enneagram is to facilitate personal growth, not put someone in a box, where they stay chained, their type being an excuse for why they are the way they are. I see all ultimately healthy types as containing the healthy qualities of all types.
no matter what health level of 8 you are, reading the description I posted will make most 8s feel somewhat exposed and uncomfortable "I'm....I'm not like that"

8. Originally Posted by Elfboy
no matter what health level of 8 you are, reading the description I posted will make most 8s feel somewhat exposed and uncomfortable "I'm....I'm not like that"
That depends on the level of narcissism.

9. Originally Posted by Mal+
That depends on the level of narcissism.
no it doesn't. your enneagram type should not be the one that makes you feel the most "comfortable" so to speak. reading a good description of one's own type should leave them feeling a bit exposed and uncomfortable (after all, their deepest, darkest inner workings and flaws have just been spelled out on a piece of paper). the experience is often met with varying degrees of shame and/or denial and the emotional aspect of the enneagram is undeniable.

10. Originally Posted by Elfboy
no it doesn't. your enneagram type should not be the one that makes you feel the most "comfortable" so to speak. reading a good description of one's own type should leave them feeling a bit exposed and uncomfortable (after all, their deepest, darkest inner workings and flaws have just been spelled out on a piece of paper). the experience is often met with varying degrees of shame and/or denial and the emotional aspect of the enneagram is undeniable.
The level of "denial" is a question of mental health (integration), in this case, an openness to new ideas especially those which are non-complimentary to oneself.

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