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[Traditional Enneagram] A Primer On The Core Gestalts For Each E-Type And More

Tomb1

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Sam Kekovich....LSE-Si 6w7 so/sp (the pugnacious-self-protective gestalt)


Rose Marie Aquilina...IEE-Ne 2w1 sp/so (the nurturing/overbearing-seductive gestalt)


BF Skinner...LII-Ti 5w6 sx/so (The Solitary-Self-Sufficient Gestalt)


Keith Raniere....IEE-Fi 9w1 so/sp (The Purposeful-Leisurely Gestalt)


Russ Hudson...LII-Ti 9w1 sp/sx (The Purposeful-Leisurely Gestalt)

 

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Grant Cardone...LSE-Te 7w8 sp/so (The Enterprising-Rebellious Gestalt)


Paul Leroux...LIE-Ni 8w7 sx/sp (The Aggressive-Savage Gestalt)


Pete Buttigieg...ESE-Fi 9w1 sp/so (The Purposeful-Leisurely Gestalt)


Ronnie Kray...LIE-Te 8w9 sx/so (The Diabolical-Aggressive Gestalt)


Zsa zsa Gabor...IEI-Ni 2w1 sx/so (The Overbearing-Seductive Gestalt)

 

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Greta Thunberg....EII-Fi 1w2 sx/sp (the Conscientious-Rigid Gestalt)


Temica Roshawn.....IEI-Ni 3w2 so/sp (the Expansive-Self-Confident Gestalt)


Wes Watson...LSE-Si 6w7 sx/sp (The Pugnacious-Self-Protective Gestalt)


Hunter Biden...LIE-Te 3w4 sp/sx (The Calculated-Self-Confident Gestalt)

 

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Alan Lichtman: LII-Ti 5w6 so/sp (Solitary-Self-Sufficient Gestalt)


Ivette Sangalo: IEE-Ne 2w1 sx/so (Nurturing/Overbearing-Seductive Gestalt)


Ammon Bundy: SLI-Si 6w5 so/sx (The Volatile-Self-Protective Gestalt)


Ralph Lauren: LIE-Ni 7w8 sp/sx (The Enterprising-Non-Conforming Gestalt)

 
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Type 1: The Rigid Gestalt
Core Strategy: Control
Core Distortion: “Somebody must be punished for the world’s imperfections and flaws.”
Area of Fixation: Retribution
Core Action Set: Preoccupation with argumentation, standing up for one’s convictions, and conforming one’s own behavior to an ideal. Finding ways to restrict others in order to correct bad behavior and seeking to right perceived wrongs through the proper channels.
DSM Correlate: Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder
Core trap: Stewing in one’s anger.
Core Vulnerability: Humiliation; being depicted in an unfair light
Core weakness: Not letting go.
Core Passion: Wrath. Wrath is essentially hate. Ones wind up in the passion of hate because their anger over perceived wrongs has gone unresolved. As a result, the anger has metastasized into something worse and the object of that anger is no longer just the one who caused the anger.
9 wingers show contempt/disdain for the parts of reality that don't conform to their strong moral principles/ideals and high regard for those that do (the ideological fanatic)…2 wingers are conscientious, like to accomplish stuff through hard work, and ground their connections to others with empathetic concerns.



Fundamentally this works but I think it is a little bit too back and white. Many people of this group will not really see themselves fully in this.
 

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Good stuff. I immediately saw myself in this 1w9 description.
 
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Four-piece hot off the press:

Carmen Miranda: IEI-Ni 2w3 so/sp (the Insatiable-Seductive Gestalt)


Liam Gallagher: SLE-Se 7w6 sx/sp (the Mercurial-Rebellious Gestalt)


Augustus Invictus: EIE-Fe 6w5 sx/sp (the Volatile-Self-Protective Gestalt)


Donna Rotunno: LSE-Te 6w7 sp/sx (the pugnacious-self-protective gestalt)

 

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only valid breakdown for every type wing and stack...show me R & H's 2500+ exemplars breakdown for every type wing and stack

Carolyn Richards: IEE-Ne 2w1 sp/so (the nurturing-seductive gestalt)


Shoshanna Zuboff: ILI-Ni 5w6 so/sx (the solitary-self-sufficient gestalt)


Jennifer Ashton: IEE-Ne 1w2 so/sx (the conscientious-rigid gestalt)


Bombay: SLE-Se 8w7 sp/sx (the Savage-Aggressive gestalt)

 

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Be forewarned the following contains gritty content.

Alpo Martinez: SLE-Ti 7w8 so/sx (the enterprising-rebellious gestalt)


Kevin: SLE-Se 6w5 sx/so (the volatile-self-protective gestalt)


Gator: SEE-Se 6w7 so/sx (the pugnacious-self-protective gestalt)


Asher: SEI-Fe 9w8 sx/sp (the tough/contrarian-leisurely gestalt)

 

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I find it rather interesting that Tomb has hidden their self typing on here, given that it puts a lot of the typings into perspective.
Tomb (also known as Kill4Me on The16types) self types as SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp. The same type that Tomb likes to type "badass" criminals and psychopaths as.

As I said before, these are some narcissistic ramblings of someone who is using typology to seem much more badass than they truly are. This fact that they have hidden only further proves this.
 

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Dan Lok: SEE-Fi 3w4 sp/so (The Calculated-Self-Confident Gestalt)


Meghan McCain: LSE-Te 6w7 so/sp (The Pugnacious-Self-Protective Gestalt)


Jack Dempsey: LSE-Si 8w7 sp/so (The Savage-Aggressive Gestalt)


Dr. Lance Dodes: LII-Ti 5w6 sp/so (The Solitary-Self-Sufficient Gestalt)

 

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Fundamentally this works but I think it is a little bit too back and white. Many people of this group will not really see themselves fully in this.

Actually it's one of the 1 descriptions that fits me more

Except I don't relate to the distortion put as is "punished for the world’s imperfections and flaws"

I'm more punitive about actual actions of people

For core action set part of it worked awesomely: "Preoccupation with argumentation, standing up for one’s convictions"

I will admit, I don't conform my behaviour to an ideal. Maybe other people's, lol. Not really mine.

And I'm not just about restriction of other people. Plus I don't worry about proper channels or my idea of proper is still too rough for what usually is called proper, lol.

Core trap was off, I don't stew in anger because I'm bad at holding it in and I don't bother with trying to do that.

The core vulnerability and core weakness and core passion parts were awesome.

1w9 is foreign, too idealistic, 1w2 is too empathetic and I'm not 100% conscientious - others see me more conscientious than I do myself - but otherwise that one works.

For gestalts I would be aggressive + rigid + self-sufficient.

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Mind you the guy otherwise comes off delusional with some of the declarations I saw in this thread, but some of the wording did fit me from 1 at least.
 

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As usual, these typings have all been thoroughly vetted and now make for new additions onto the 2500+ exemplars list (aka "the mothership")...soon to be 3,000+

Governor Andrew Cuomo: LSI-Ti 3w2 sp/so (The Expansive-Self-Confident Gestalt)


Governor Ron Desantis: ESI-Fi 6w5 sp/so (The Volatile-Self-Protective Gestalt)


Thomas Barrack: LIE-Ni 7w8 sp/sx (The Enterprising-Rebellious Gestalt)


Kate Broderick: ILE-Ti 1w2 sp/sx (The Conscientious-Rigid Gestalt)

 

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Jair Bolsonaro: ILE-Ne 1w9 so/sp (The Contemptuous-Rigid Gestalt)


Gianluca Vacchi: IEE-Fi 7w6 sp/sx (the Mercurial-Rebellious Gestalt)


Jim Acosta: ILE-Ne 1w2 so/sx (The Conscientious-Rigid Gestalt)


Robert Frost: ILI-Ni 9w1 sp/sx (The Purposeful-Leisurely Gestalt)

 

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Anthony Fauci, M.D.: ILI-Te 5w6 sp/sx (The Solitary-Self-Sufficient Gestalt)


Sanjay Gupta, M.D.: ILE-Ti 9w1 sp/so (The Purposeful-Leisurely Gestalt)


Brooke Baldwin: EIE-Ni 3w4 so/sx (The Calculated-Self-Confident Gestalt)


Joe Exotic: LSE-Te 7w6 so/sx (The Mercurial-Rebellious Gestalt)

 
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