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[Traditional Enneagram] Which eType is the most Manipulative?

Amargith

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I just taught you what a definition is. And did I charge anything? No.
I would hope so since I didnt ask for it - but you did make certain promises regarding that other thread :coffee:
 

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The 6w7 is an emotional chameleon. This type will gauge the emotional environment in a room full of people, and then blend in with it, thus manipulating others into believing they are part of the group and belong.

What if I tell you I do that regularly but from a different vantage point than the 6w7?
 

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What if I tell you I do that regularly but from a different vantage point than the 6w7?

I wouldn't doubt that it happens with 2s, 3s, 4s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and maybe 9s. But I only mentioned one manipulative trait out of several that 6w7s have.

Its like me and my fibromyalgia. I have FM back pain, but millions of people who don't have FM also have back pain.
 

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I wouldn't doubt that it happens with 2s, 3s, 4s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and maybe 9s. But I only mentioned one manipulative trait out of several that 6w7s have.

Its like me and my fibromyalgia. I have FM back pain, but millions of people who don't have FM also have back pain.

But isn't this premise based on definitions and subjective interpretation of the type descriptions?
 

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But isn't this premise based on definitions and subjective interpretation of the type descriptions?

It's based on my personal experience. 6w7s also tend to be thin-skinned and try to bury their feelings behind a humorous or witty facade.
 

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It's based on my personal experience. 6w7s also tend to be thin-skinned and try to bury their feelings behind a humorous or witty facade.

I could totally see that regarding 6w7. And from my experience, the most skilled manipulators I have ever met are two 3w2 EXFJ men. Although I am close to both, I have seen both build people up so that that can gain favor and use them to their benefit. It always seemed like there was a game in the background (and no, they weren't narcissists...just calculated).

This is why I was trying to figure out what you were trying to define... plus I was really BORED. haha
 

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[MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION]: is this what you were trying to get at?
Yep. And the description/definition given made it seem like just identifying the consequences was enough to establish intent where sheer incompetence in the service of the cognitive process is most often the culprit, ime.
 
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