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    I think the correlations show a big problem with Enneagram that the typing gets corrupted by MBTI type and particular characteristics of given MBTI type or group of types override the results of core motivations.

    For example type 1 description is corrupted by being based on SJ types.

    4 is just a bag where FP types get thrown in because they of feelings.

    I used to think I'm a 4 for like a decade before I discovered core motivations of types.
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    Lovin' the numbers. They evidence significant correlation between Enneagram and MBTI types.

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    So if I am actually typed correctly this time now with combo INTP and 7, I am in the 1%. I wasn't expecting it to be that low. Almost as low as INTP 2s which looks like pretty much don't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunalum View Post
    So if I am actually typed correctly this time now with combo INTP and 7, I am in the 1%. I wasn't expecting it to be that low. Almost as low as INTP 2s which looks like pretty much don't exist.
    It is pretty low, but quite honestly in terms of actually test results, the traditional INTP "archetype" has a heavy skew to 5 purely due to the overlap between Ti and 5 descriptions. I'd imagine if test results were more accurately distributed, INTP 7 would probably be a little bit more common (as the Ti dom types by theory alone seem to lean towards the head types; I'd imagine it's probably still pretty low, but maybe 5x that of type 2 in reality at least).

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    Nice data! I am shocked that there are not more XNFJ 1s. But, the data doesn't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Rodent View Post
    I think the correlations show a big problem with Enneagram that the typing gets corrupted by MBTI type and particular characteristics of given MBTI type or group of types override the results of core motivations. For example type 1 description is corrupted by being based on SJ types. 4 is just a bag where FP types get thrown in because they of feelings. I used to think I'm a 4 for like a decade before I discovered core motivations of types.
    I can see how Type 1 descriptions seem like they describe XSXJ types, particularly XSTJs. Same with type 4s and XXFP types. There are many stereotypes on the different enneagram types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfalcon8 View Post
    Nice data! I am shocked that there are not more XNFJ 1s. But, the data doesn't lie.
    Except that this assumes people have given correct data on their types. That's assuming a lot.

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    The facts are the facts. Yes, the data sources on MBTI and Enneagram correlations vary. There is a lack of standardization with the data, so there will be a few differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bundleofsunshine View Post
    Data is mostly useless because so many people mistype. ESFJs are mostly 6w7s not 2s, ESTJs are mostly 6w7s not 8s, ISTJs are mostly 6w5s not 1s, ISFPs are mostly 9s not 4s and INFJs are probably mostly 1s not 4s. - - - Updated - - - ESFJ but most ESFJs are 6w7s like I said above.
    Where is your evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfalcon8 View Post
    The facts are the facts. Yes, the data sources on MBTI and Enneagram correlations vary. There is a lack of standardization with the data, so there will be a few differences.
    I'm not sure whether you understood what I meant or not, so to clarify, I mean that many people mistype themselves at one point or another. So just taking whatever type someone has listed as the actual type they may not be accurate.

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