[Traditional Enneagram] Extroverted type 4s, as rare as they seem?

[Raspberry_rain]

Just wondering if I have many fellow extroverted type 4s out there. It seems to be almost entirely INFP, ISFP, INFJ. For me it took a long time to decide that I was really a 4 because whenever I test, I always get 2w3 and 4w3 with maybe a one point difference either direction. I eventually decided that I was a 4w3 because the description fits me to the letter and always has. I think I'm different than most though, because as an ENFP I have A LOT of focus on others, hence the equally high score on 2w3. So my questions are is anyone else on here an extroverted 4? What about an extroverted 4 that isn't an ENFP, I've found that we seem to be the only extroverts included at all, possibly because we're the most introverted? And last but not least, why do you think this type seems to draw certain MBTI types specifically? Particularly introverts over extroverts.

 

[INTP]

4 is one of the common types(not the most common tho) for ENFPs, i dont think its common with other E types tho.

 

[hjgbujhghg]

I know other ENFPs that type as enneagram 4, 4 goes well with Fi that ENFPs use as their second function and aslo goes along with the intuitive part of the persobality well as fours are among the highest rated on intuition.

 

[Tomb1]

Have a look into Temperament States:

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/enneagram/63490-temp.html

a medium or high temperament 4 lays the pretext for that introverted 4 typing themselves extrovert. They are still introverts you see.

Also check out this google doc done by a member at Stackemup, Skyboy. He focuses on low temp 7, but includes stuff about temp states:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ALVqPSKJAFxze-67ZIElwQ6iGaxxtP6QkbyLVbnxJm0/pub

 

[Raspberry_rain]

Have a look into Temperament States:

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/enneagram/63490-temp.html

a medium or high temperament 4 lays the pretext for that introverted 4 typing themselves extrovert. They are still introverts you see.

Also check out this google doc done by a member at Stackemup, Skyboy. He focuses on low temp 7, but includes stuff about temp states:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ALVqPSKJAFxze-67ZIElwQ6iGaxxtP6QkbyLVbnxJm0/pub

I see nothing in here to indicate that type 4s have to be introverts.

 

[HongDou]

I think 4 (excluding ISFPs) is almost entirely an NF type. So I think it wouldn't be surprising to see an ENFP 4 or an ENFJ 4. Putting aside the many self-typed ENFP 4s running around here, I think [MENTION=1456]Domino[/MENTION] was an ENFJ 4. Come baaack. They're most likely going to be 4w3 though.

 

[violet_crown]

Female 4s are relatively common.

 

[RobinSkye]

I think 4 (excluding ISFPs) is almost entirely an NF type. So I think it wouldn't be surprising to see an ENFP 4 or an ENFJ 4. Putting aside the many self-typed ENFP 4s running around here, I think [MENTION=1456]Domino[/MENTION] was an ENFJ 4. Come baaack. They're most likely going to be 4w3 though.

>thinks 4w5
>thinks INTP

 

[Hawthorne]

I think 4 (excluding ISFPs) is almost entirely an NF type. So I think it wouldn't be surprising to see an ENFP 4 or an ENFJ 4. Putting aside the many self-typed ENFP 4s running around here, I think [MENTION=1456]Domino[/MENTION] was an ENFJ 4. Come baaack. They're most likely going to be 4w3 though.

I could see a few INTJs going the way of 4. Probably not common though.

 

[Forever]

Only as rare as you want them to be. ;0

 

[á´…eparted]

I wouldn't call 4 rare, nor would I call any particular type rare. I think introverted 4's are more common, but that doesn't make extroverted 4's rare.

 

[Redbone]

I do think introverted 4s are more common. It seems extroverted 4s just walk that line of ambiversion. 4w3 can have moments where they appear very extroverted and then have to disappear because they have exhausted themselves. I often feel like a compulsive extrovert. It's a rather unpleasant oil and water mix with a 4...needs emulsification.

 

[Ribonuke]

I'm an ESTP, yet I have a rather large dose of 4 in my system.

How does this work? Well...whenever I do something that leads to a negative reaction from others, I often have to stop, think and reflect for a while before I feel ready to face the world again. I have to consider what I did to elicit such a negative reaction, and then work on avoiding that in the future so that I don't receive such a negative reaction again.

So basically, I'm an ESTP that reflects a lot and is prone to doubting herself. But I also have traits of an 8w7 whenever I'm NOT being a 4w5, so...yeah.

 

[utmostrose]

Im a 4w3 enfj here. I dont come across too many other 4w3s period, it seems most are 4w5. I think that even most enfjs who are 4s are 4w5s.

 

[magpie]

I chose 4w3 because 4w5 was too introverted for me. As in, I could definitely see an extrovert 4w3.