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    Quote Originally Posted by RooibosKrayfish View Post
    Ew it's creepy how accurate this is. Idk if I actually have maladaptive daydreaming as an actual disorder, but I definitely daydream excessively to the point where it's difficult to keep up with the real world. This quote was especially accurate:


    Ouch, I don't even like quotes.

    Idk, I think excessive daydreaming (not necessarily maladaptive) this would be more common among the withdrawn types, though I can see idealistic types (7,1,4) also falling into this category.
    I am not diagnosed either, but I am sure I am an exsessive daydreamer. It kind of screws up a lot of things.

    I personally am more present than usual in conversations. Or at least when they are deep and when I am not disturbed all the time.

    The passage below about the daydreaming from the video is quite interesting.

    They are the feelings he didn't express, the words he didn't say, the journeys he never made, the beliefs he didn't defend. In short it is the life he hasn't lived.The life that is only accessible to him in fantasy
    Also the part when its said its caused by craving for life hits home.

    I have also read it could be caused by creativity that hasn't been expressed.

    Overall, it seems that it is caused by a shortage of explorations.

    Have you found ways to deal with the daydreaming?

    I do the kind of pacing that is quite common among maladaptive daydreamers. I have become aware of it and force myself to snap out of it. It has become better, but the snapping out is rather exhausting.

    Yes, I think the withdrawn types are more prone to daydreaming as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    Have you found ways to deal with the daydreaming?

    I do the kind of pacing that is quite common among maladaptive daydreamers. I have become aware of it and force myself to snap out of it. It has become better, but the snapping out is rather exhausting.
    Yes and no, I've been trying to find a surefire solution for years since the daydreaming can make it difficult to focus (and also because sometimes I'll start mumbling to myself/pacing), but my methods don't always work.

    My primary method to deal with daydreaming has been drawing (and occasionally writing). I find that sometimes if I can express the stories that I'm daydreaming about, I become less focused on them and daydream less. I also find forcing myself to engage in the real world through things like going for long walks outside or interacting with others can also help. I've tried trying to snap myself out of daydreaming as well, but as you said it's exhausting and kind of just leaves me with uncomfortable "dead space."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeUndefined View Post
    Hi, as you know excessive daydreaming, physical movements, talking to yourself etc. "All in the head" kind of thing. Anyway, are there any enneatypes that are prone to malapdative daydreaming or are all the withdrawn types equally prone to it?
    I'd guess ennea 5 or 4. Ennea 9 withdraws often, but I know them to generally be more grounded in nature.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeUndefined View Post
    And.. describe how you tend to react when you're in that process, haha. maintaining self awareness while daydreaming..
    There is no reaction. Either nature calls or someone snaps me out of it or I'm gone. I can take ages to memorize a really short route just because I uncontrollably slip into daydreaming on the way there. I will literally daydream at every possible waking moment. I'm widely known as 'that one person who is not quite present on this earth'.

    It's horrendously ridiculous-sounding and dangerous now that I think about it, but I've done this since as far back as I can remember, even as a toddler, so it's difficult for me to find it abnormal or a nuisance, even if I feel I should.

    As an additional note, I've been EEG'ed before-
    "An electroencephalogram (EEG) is a test used to find problems related to electrical activity of the brain. An EEG tracks and records brain wave patterns."
    -and I have unusually high theta waves. I also have insane dream recalling. It's also supposedly related to being absorbed in one's environment.
    I wonder if this affects how much one daydreams, maladaptively or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RooibosKrayfish View Post
    Yes and no, I've been trying to find a surefire solution for years since the daydreaming can make it difficult to focus (and also because sometimes I'll start mumbling to myself/pacing), but my methods don't always work.

    My primary method to deal with daydreaming has been drawing (and occasionally writing). I find that sometimes if I can express the stories that I'm daydreaming about, I become less focused on them and daydream less. I also find forcing myself to engage in the real world through things like going for long walks outside or interacting with others can also help. I've tried trying to snap myself out of daydreaming as well, but as you said it's exhausting and kind of just leaves me with uncomfortable "dead space."
    I have started to use a sketchbook as an creative outlet. Just beginning, but I think it helps. Also helps me clear out my thoughts.

    I am starting to recognize the triggers as well. Music is a big one.

    Meditation seems to help a lot of folks so I will try it out. Its interesting for other reasons as well.

    Have you recognized your triggers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterres View Post
    I'd guess ennea 5 or 4. Ennea 9 withdraws often, but I know them to generally be more grounded in nature.




    There is no reaction. Either nature calls or someone snaps me out of it or I'm gone. I can take ages to memorize a really short route just because I uncontrollably slip into daydreaming on the way there. I will literally daydream at every possible waking moment. I'm widely known as 'that one person who is not quite present on this earth'.

    It's horrendously ridiculous-sounding and dangerous now that I think about it, but I've done this since as far back as I can remember, even as a toddler, so it's difficult for me to find it abnormal or a nuisance, even if I feel I should.

    As an additional note, I've been EEG'ed before-
    "An electroencephalogram (EEG) is a test used to find problems related to electrical activity of the brain. An EEG tracks and records brain wave patterns."
    -and I have unusually high theta waves. I also have insane dream recalling. It's also supposedly related to being absorbed in one's environment.
    I wonder if this affects how much one daydreams, maladaptively or not.
    That sounds rough.

    I can only imagine that it is causing you a lot of problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    I have started to use a sketchbook as an creative outlet. Just beginning, but I think it helps. Also helps me clear out my thoughts.

    I am starting to recognize the triggers as well. Music is a big one.

    Meditation seems to help a lot of folks so I will try it out. Its interesting for other reasons as well.

    Have you recognized your triggers?
    Actually meditation has been suggested to me more than once. It always sounds like a good idea, I've just never gotten around to trying it.

    I haven't quite recognized many of them yet, though anxiety is probably a top runner along with maybe certain places or emotions. It's sort of difficult to figure out because a lot of it seems internally based and there's certainly more self aware people than myself. I've been focusing on that recently though, so maybe I'll figure it out eventually :/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RooibosKrayfish View Post
    Actually meditation has been suggested to me more than once. It always sounds like a good idea, I've just never gotten around to trying it.

    I haven't quite recognized many of them yet, though anxiety is probably a top runner along with maybe certain places or emotions. It's sort of difficult to figure out because a lot of it seems internally based and there's certainly more self aware people than myself. I've been focusing on that recently though, so maybe I'll figure it out eventually :/.
    Sounds like you and I have much in common. At least in this case.

    My absent-mindedness/daydreaming becomes worse when I am stressed out. It is not a pretty sight.
    I am hoping meditation will help with both, the daydreaming and my neurotic nature.
    Time will tell...

    I, however, am quite self-aware, due to a lot of introspection the last, well , years due to how things have played out.
    I am starting to figure out how it is all connected.

    Yes, about the meditation. I am waiting for a tool called a mala to help me with my mediation.
    Perhaps you should look into it, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    Sounds like you and I have much in common. At least in this case.

    My absent-mindedness/daydreaming becomes worse when I am stressed out. It is not a pretty sight.
    I am hoping meditation will help with both, the daydreaming and my neurotic nature.
    Time will tell...

    I, however, am quite self-aware, due to a lot of introspection the last, well , years due to how things have played out.
    I am starting to figure out how it is all connected.

    Yes, about the meditation. I am waiting for a tool called a mala to help me with my mediation.
    Perhaps you should look into it, as well.
    Interesting, I hope that ends up working well for you. Honestly that sounds like a good idea, I just might.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    That sounds rough.

    I can only imagine that it is causing you a lot of problems?
    More to others than myself, and less once I got older.
    As a child, I would not snap out of it most of the time, unless you -yell- my name several times, or physically touch me, because oftentimes I would not be able to hear my surroundings.
    My teachers thought I was autistic, and I was very scary to other children (and adults) (imagine a small child constantly staring at nothing- or at something- or someone, and saying there were actual, physical-sounding voices in their head. That one still happens sometimes).

    Now, I quickly snap out of it if someone calls my name, and it doesn't have to be loud.
    It's mostly only annoying if I end up not noticing important things when they happen.

    Now that I think of it, this might be why people say I somehow manage to constantly look lost. The more I type about this the less normal it sounds. This is actually my first time talking about it outside of when I was a child, so I just kind of realized 'oh yeah that does sound strange'. I mostly just say I'm air-headed.
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    4’s. Creativity may never meet the canvas or the page but it’s incubator is the mind.

    Yeah this was definitely a thing for me when I was younger. As a boy and a teenager, reality would just sort of melt away around me and I drift off heavily for minutes at a time. My eyes would be open and my ears would register sounds but I wouldn’t ‘see’ what I was looking at and my hearing would be distant and muffled. Suddenly l’d zone in and be staring at something or worse someone and not even realize I was.

    With age it’s gotten way better. Probably a combination of self training and learning the hard way to not be so spacey. Losing focus on reality so completely can be dangerous.
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