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[Traditional Enneagram] What Does a 4w5 Sx/So Look Like?

Cloud of Thunder

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I'm trying to get a feel for how the 4w5 gets "flavored" by the different stackings, but I'm especially interested in the Sx/So because it's probably the most interesting IMO.

Any thoughts on how the two manifest? Any real life examples? Could I be one? Etc?
 

small.wonder

So she did.
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[MENTION=14498]Cloud of Thunder[/MENTION] I am a real life example. I think Naranjo and Beatrice Chestnut do the best job of hitting the nail on the head with instincts. Sx 4 is said to "make others suffer" (I equate that to making people walk on eggshells and the "Cain like" envy Naranjo mentions). So 4 on the other hand brings a vocal suffering to the mix, an acute awareness of their social lack and a tendency to make it known that they feel disconnected. I am a blend of the two, with more of the former than the latter.

I initially typed as Sx/Sp, but after a good deal of reading I started to realize it might not be so. When my Mom laughed at the Sp 4 description and said it was definitely the least me, I knew for sure. I do think I've developed my Sp in life, but I have realized I'm kind of naturally deficient in that area of instinct.

Why does Sx/So 4 interest you so?
 

Arctic Hysteria

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Riva

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What does a 5w4 look like?

Most of the SX dom 5w4s I know have similar vibes to him.

However, the forum has quite a few 5w4 SX doms who don't have the same vibe.

[MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION]
I suggest you read this. frankly, the Sx 4 doesn't sound like you at all. they are insanely aggressive, vengeful and angry and are said to be "the only time which can make the 8 back down".
[Enneagram Type 4] Sexual Four description (according to Beatrice Chestnut).
[MENTION=13377]pinkgraffiti[/MENTION]
you win, 7 sounds right for you, but Social 7, not Sexual 7

This is what 4w5 Sx doms are like. Can you relate? Read the link too.

I am not saying you are not a Sx dom since I don't know about you at all except from what I have observed you from your posts. However, I would have easily settled downed on SP dom 4w5 for you.
 

Arctic Hysteria

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I am not saying you are not a Sx dom since I don't know about you at all except from what I have observed you from your posts. However, I would have easily settled downed on SP dom 4w5 for you.

Once upon a time I was an INFJ e6 Sp.

But now reading about Sp-dom, there is almost nothing I can relate to Sp-dom if I can be very honest with myself.
Sx-dom description, on the other hand, is rather on point.

I don't very much relate to the description in the link you shared. It all seems so unhealthy, but more like a 4w3 sx-dom unhealthy. Feeling "superior" or "the best" is no way what 4w5 can identify with.
 

Elfboy

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[MENTION=22067]riva[/MENTION]
huh? I'm not Sp 4-ish at all. the only 4 I relate to is Sexual 4
 

Riva

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[MENTION=22067]riva[/MENTION]
huh? I'm not Sp 4-ish at all. the only 4 I relate to is Sexual 4

You are such an NP.

if you look closely you'd realize that i was only quoting you. I wasn't implying that you are an sp dom.

:p
 

Venus Rose

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Hmm well, it’s not your stereotypical sxso at least in my case. Don’t relate at all to the socially charismatic, smooth thing about sxso, and in fact in groups I often keep to myself owing to the fact that I’m an introvert. Any specific questions...?
 
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