Central Delusions (Encapsulations)

[VagrantFarce]

1. No-one is good, I must set the example.
2. No-one is loved, I have to make sacrifices.
3. No one is attentive, I have to be admirable.
4. No-one is meaningful, I have to stand out.
5. No-one is knowledgeable, I have to watch and learn.
6. No-one is trustworthy, I have to be suspicious.
7. No-one is happy, I have to be optimistic.
8. No-one is strong, I have to dominate and push things.
9. No-one is connected, I have to facilitate.

/brainfart

 

[citizen cane]

I like this, and I'm inclined to agree with 6. Hopefully this thread takes off and we'll get insight from the other enneagram types.

 

[prplchknz]

i sorta agree with 5 and 6 the rest I don't

 

[Mole]

There is the God delusion and all else follows from this to Jung delusions and mbti delusions.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

If those premises are accurate, then I would be a E9, although I'm a composer for a living and feel connected to 4/5, but I do compose ultimately to connect people in empathy. Existential isolation is my deepest driving force.

 

[Rail Tracer]

I consider changing that "no-one" to most.

Other than that, 6 is a strong one.

For 5, I don't agree that no-one is knowledgeable, but I do agree that I need to watch and learn.

 

[sarek]

This might help:

http://www.ahalmaas.com/glossary/enneagram-of-specific-delusions

 

[Stansmith]

I can't read my type's fear and think "hey, that's me", it's so deeply ingrained that I can't immediately recognize it.

 

[Coriolis]

1. No-one is good, I must set the example.
2. No-one is loved, I have to make sacrifices.
3. No one is attentive, I have to be admirable.
4. No-one is meaningful, I have to stand out.
5. No-one is knowledgeable, I have to watch and learn.
6. No-one is trustworthy, I have to be suspicious.
7. No-one is happy, I have to be optimistic.
8. No-one is strong, I have to dominate and push things.
9. No-one is connected, I have to facilitate.

I relate to 5 and 6 mostly. I would change 4 to: no one is meaningful, I have to find meaning internally or elsewhere. I relate to 8 on occasion, since I will push things when it is necessary and no one else will. I relate to 1 more from the perspective of not letting the inadequacy of others rub off on myself, though being a good example for others is worthwhile also.

 

[Evo]

1. No-one is good, I must set the example.
2. No-one is loved, I have to make sacrifices.
3. No one is attentive, I have to be admirable.
4. No-one is meaningful, I have to stand out.
5. No-one is knowledgeable, I have to watch and learn.
6. No-one is trustworthy, I have to be suspicious.
7. No-one is happy, I have to be optimistic.
8. No-one is strong, I have to dominate and push things.
9. No-one is connected, I have to facilitate.

/brainfart

I read down all of them and until I got to 6 I was really having a hard time relating.

This definately applies for a 6. The other ones I have no clue. But it would be interesting to get their feedback.

I like the one on 9 a little. I believe I'm not connected and I don't know how to facilitate it though.

Do 9's facilitate by keeping peace? I thought 9's liked to "keep in the background" more.

 

[VagrantFarce]

I read down all of them and until I got to 6 I was really having a hard time relating.

This definately applies for a 6. The other ones I have no clue. But it would be interesting to get their feedback.

I like the one on 9 a little. I believe I'm not connected and I don't know how to facilitate it though.

Do 9's facilitate by keeping peace? I thought 9's liked to "keep in the background" more.

9s facilitate by removing their agenda - they make room for others by maintaining a calm, connected and inviting presence. They would overcompensate for any perceived lack of connection by over-connecting and over-accommodating.

 

[Stansmith]

I relate to 4, and 3 based on OP

 

[Evo]

9s facilitate by removing their agenda - they make room for others by maintaining a calm, connected and inviting presence. They would overcompensate for any perceived lack of connection by over-connecting and over-accommodating.

Oh yes, I can see that. I didn't think of it in that way!