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You only have to describe someone as "serene" and "gentle" and a type 5 magically appears to be a 9.
From
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23302
'Einstein, 5w4 or 9w1 ?'
'Tradesmen found him lovable, polite, serene, kindly, gentle
and detached. Colleagues at Fine Hall used exactly the same
words to describe Einstein to friends. He was the new "saint"
of Princeton. When he patted a little girl on the head, every-
one in town grew shiny-eyed.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Elsa's condition deteriorated through 1936. By December,
she was dying. Einstein spent many hours at her bedside, read-
ing and talking to her. But he had his emotions under firm
control. Although there were tears in his eyes, his head was
clear. "In this atmosphere of coming death," said Infeld, "Ein-
stein remained serene and worked constantly." '
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'"Just to be with the Professor seemed to help you ease
tension," said Fred Biallas, who had many tense moments
with the Princeton boat crews. "In other words, I think it
would have been impossible to have held a grudge or be riled
while talking to him. He was so serene himself that the feeling
seemed to pass on to you.â€'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Now, Einstein's name surged in and out of the newspapers.
People saw him as a doughty old warrior in a do-or-die attempt
to stop the cold war and promote his world government. Let-
ters and statements tumbled out of his Mercer Street study.
Einstein, the theoretical physicist, dissolved into Einstein, the
saintly world citizen a kind old man devoting his last years
to bringing happiness to the earth.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'That was the image Einstein put forward to the world. A
few newspapers sent reporters to Princeton to help build it
up. Friends and neighbors praised his humility and serenity,
his many kind deeds. The sweet stories were printed around
the world. The myth was the man.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Besides all this, Prague was a surly city. It was peopled
mainly with Czechs, Germans and Jews, and each group was
constantly insulting the other. To the irritation of the German
professors, Einstein would not pick sides. He thought such
bickering infantile. He stayed aloof, devoting all his time to
his job and to his private research. Students enjoyed the ses-
sions with Einstein in the physics laboratory. There was al-
ways an air of uncertainty; frequently his experiments did not
work.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Few in Prague had any notion of the extent of Einstein's
obsession with physics. It even intruded into his music. He
needed to play well-turned, complete pieces. He wanted har-
mony in his music as well as in the universe. To him, this
meant Mozart. He played Mozart beautifully, and he played
Mozart often.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'"He sought friends with whom he could play music or dis-
cuss ideas about the universe," said Philipp Frank, the physicist
and Einstein biographer who was to replace Einstein in Prague.
"Yet he did not like to become so intimate with his friends
that they could in any way interfere with his freedom. His
attractive, frank and witty personality easily made friends, but
his prediliction for isolation and his concentration on his artistic
and scientific life disappointed many people and estranged
some who had been, or at least believed themselves to be, his
friends."'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Einstein fairly brimmed over with life. Like a child, he liked
to sneak extra time in bed in the morning. Mileva would
finally get him out. He whistled merrily while he shaved and
dressed. He ate breakfast hungrily and walked off to the uni-
versity, twenty minutes away, with a jaunty stride. In the
late afternoon, before dinner, he spent time with his sons.
He liked to play with their toys. He loved to play his violin
while Hans Albert played a little tune on the piano, Edward
was only three then and just starting to plunk the piano. His
father said it would not be long before "Teddy" was playing
too. At three, Edward was already reading. Sometimes the
boys were naughty and Einstein spanked them. But he could
not stay angry. He preferred to laugh. Hans Albert thought
his father was "a riot." But not when he was working. He hated
to be interrupted when he worked.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Those were good days and everybody was content and pros-
perous. The strife and hatred in other parts of Europe were
far away. Mileva wanted this happy time to last forever. She
was conscious of her brooding, but one day it would pass. The
occasional squabbles with Albert were not all her fault. He
had not changed basically since college. He was still infuriat-
ingly vague about worldly matters. He could also be stubborn.
If he reasoned something out to the last detail and made up
his mind one way or the other, nobody could budge him.
Take psychoanalysis, for instance. Albert had decided this
was worth investigating. He studied it, reasoned it, and found
it too inconclusive. After that, he refused to take it seriously.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'European nations were picking sides in the squabble and nobody was looking ahead to the day of climax. It would be a big explosion because Germany was behind Austria and Russia backed Serbia.
Einstein was aware of this slow-burning fuse, but he hoped
it would be snuffed out in time. He convinced himself that his
work would be undisturbed, even in Berlin.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Einstein's joy over his new advance in Relativity lasted
him a long time and kept him immune from worries about the
savagery of the world.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Hedwig Born, the gentle wife of the brilliant physicist Max
Born, used to talk over her troubles with Einstein. She was
a Quaker and the war sickened her. "His serenity gave me
peace of mind," she said.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'The older the physicist grew, the more he
lived in his intellect. He was now more obstinate about his
scientific convictions, but he was as indecisive as ever about
everyday matters that were unimportant to him. The analysis
also gave one explanation of why Einstein did not brood and
did not build up resentments. He had only flashes of hate or
other high emotion. Mostly, he was serene. He was able very
quickly to resign himself to personal disappointments, both in
physics and in politics.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
As a final note, a couple years a psychologist working with my oldest step-daughter told me that I appeared very serene. (I'm a 5w4, same as Einstein.)
From
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23302
'Einstein, 5w4 or 9w1 ?'
'Tradesmen found him lovable, polite, serene, kindly, gentle
and detached. Colleagues at Fine Hall used exactly the same
words to describe Einstein to friends. He was the new "saint"
of Princeton. When he patted a little girl on the head, every-
one in town grew shiny-eyed.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Elsa's condition deteriorated through 1936. By December,
she was dying. Einstein spent many hours at her bedside, read-
ing and talking to her. But he had his emotions under firm
control. Although there were tears in his eyes, his head was
clear. "In this atmosphere of coming death," said Infeld, "Ein-
stein remained serene and worked constantly." '
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'"Just to be with the Professor seemed to help you ease
tension," said Fred Biallas, who had many tense moments
with the Princeton boat crews. "In other words, I think it
would have been impossible to have held a grudge or be riled
while talking to him. He was so serene himself that the feeling
seemed to pass on to you.â€'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Now, Einstein's name surged in and out of the newspapers.
People saw him as a doughty old warrior in a do-or-die attempt
to stop the cold war and promote his world government. Let-
ters and statements tumbled out of his Mercer Street study.
Einstein, the theoretical physicist, dissolved into Einstein, the
saintly world citizen a kind old man devoting his last years
to bringing happiness to the earth.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'That was the image Einstein put forward to the world. A
few newspapers sent reporters to Princeton to help build it
up. Friends and neighbors praised his humility and serenity,
his many kind deeds. The sweet stories were printed around
the world. The myth was the man.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Besides all this, Prague was a surly city. It was peopled
mainly with Czechs, Germans and Jews, and each group was
constantly insulting the other. To the irritation of the German
professors, Einstein would not pick sides. He thought such
bickering infantile. He stayed aloof, devoting all his time to
his job and to his private research. Students enjoyed the ses-
sions with Einstein in the physics laboratory. There was al-
ways an air of uncertainty; frequently his experiments did not
work.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Few in Prague had any notion of the extent of Einstein's
obsession with physics. It even intruded into his music. He
needed to play well-turned, complete pieces. He wanted har-
mony in his music as well as in the universe. To him, this
meant Mozart. He played Mozart beautifully, and he played
Mozart often.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'"He sought friends with whom he could play music or dis-
cuss ideas about the universe," said Philipp Frank, the physicist
and Einstein biographer who was to replace Einstein in Prague.
"Yet he did not like to become so intimate with his friends
that they could in any way interfere with his freedom. His
attractive, frank and witty personality easily made friends, but
his prediliction for isolation and his concentration on his artistic
and scientific life disappointed many people and estranged
some who had been, or at least believed themselves to be, his
friends."'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Einstein fairly brimmed over with life. Like a child, he liked
to sneak extra time in bed in the morning. Mileva would
finally get him out. He whistled merrily while he shaved and
dressed. He ate breakfast hungrily and walked off to the uni-
versity, twenty minutes away, with a jaunty stride. In the
late afternoon, before dinner, he spent time with his sons.
He liked to play with their toys. He loved to play his violin
while Hans Albert played a little tune on the piano, Edward
was only three then and just starting to plunk the piano. His
father said it would not be long before "Teddy" was playing
too. At three, Edward was already reading. Sometimes the
boys were naughty and Einstein spanked them. But he could
not stay angry. He preferred to laugh. Hans Albert thought
his father was "a riot." But not when he was working. He hated
to be interrupted when he worked.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Those were good days and everybody was content and pros-
perous. The strife and hatred in other parts of Europe were
far away. Mileva wanted this happy time to last forever. She
was conscious of her brooding, but one day it would pass. The
occasional squabbles with Albert were not all her fault. He
had not changed basically since college. He was still infuriat-
ingly vague about worldly matters. He could also be stubborn.
If he reasoned something out to the last detail and made up
his mind one way or the other, nobody could budge him.
Take psychoanalysis, for instance. Albert had decided this
was worth investigating. He studied it, reasoned it, and found
it too inconclusive. After that, he refused to take it seriously.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'European nations were picking sides in the squabble and nobody was looking ahead to the day of climax. It would be a big explosion because Germany was behind Austria and Russia backed Serbia.
Einstein was aware of this slow-burning fuse, but he hoped
it would be snuffed out in time. He convinced himself that his
work would be undisturbed, even in Berlin.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Einstein's joy over his new advance in Relativity lasted
him a long time and kept him immune from worries about the
savagery of the world.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'Hedwig Born, the gentle wife of the brilliant physicist Max
Born, used to talk over her troubles with Einstein. She was
a Quaker and the war sickened her. "His serenity gave me
peace of mind," she said.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
---
'The older the physicist grew, the more he
lived in his intellect. He was now more obstinate about his
scientific convictions, but he was as indecisive as ever about
everyday matters that were unimportant to him. The analysis
also gave one explanation of why Einstein did not brood and
did not build up resentments. He had only flashes of hate or
other high emotion. Mostly, he was serene. He was able very
quickly to resign himself to personal disappointments, both in
physics and in politics.'
[Therefore Einstein was a 9?]
As a final note, a couple years a psychologist working with my oldest step-daughter told me that I appeared very serene. (I'm a 5w4, same as Einstein.)
