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The completed Metagram

Zangetshumody

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11 is the psychopath; most of which aren't bad people, this type has trouble picking up on emotional signs being devoid of sensibility, not naturally responsive to body language one might only catch subliminally. The sensibility this type lacks is often more manifest in their lack of feeling, as calculation tries to compensate their disposition. The lacks ingrained standards, missing due to their strong apathy that holds them back from instilling socialized norms within themselves.

12 is the sociopath; this type is actually quite functional, they appear like most other types except for their great intensity, and sharpness that might cut you when you expect a measure of politeness over their strong will to fulfill their whims. They have a very strong sense of what they want to do, and will let few things stop them, they get annoyed easily, often the product of childhoods that underwent great uncertainty, robbing the 12 of a placid temperament. You can often notice the intensity of 12's in their quest to maintain a certain certainty in their schema, often its the propensity to be correct in some manner, and to maintain a calculated schema that affords them a kind static arrangement that substitutes for placidity, threats to this schema are met with a strong negative emotional and or other response.

13 is the indulgent addict; this is the closest to love you will see in the metagram, 13's are indulgent, perhaps in work, or play, whatever it is, if they like doing it, they will embellish their endeavours for their own sake, taking each encounter with indulgence they can take pride in, they often do their best to improve and better their artful tact, or whichever labour they have chosen to be their love. A very pleasant type to be acquainted with, one can almost hear the effort that imitates love in their tone so often.

The point of the metagram is to escape the 13 types and become a type 10, someone who isn't seeing the world through a coloured lens. A lens started when one appreciated the need to channel a passion, make it one's mental job after one was schooled by your tenders that one is blessed in this world because of their deeds done and those left undone. A belief that has psychological implications, for it impels the youngster to put down their free scope between the 13 virtues*, to become grown up and play the mental game one adopts as his/her work... the toil that passions bind your consciousness.

the 13 virtues are technically not all virtues, 3 are deeds:
fortitude, temperance, faith (made up of detachment, valuation and trust), prudence, justice, hope, charity, love
sensibility, placidity, moderation

The arrows in the metagram do not indicate growth, they indicate how one type has assimilated the type's virtue whose arrow points towards it. eg. 9 is hope and because this points to 4, 4's major strength is hope. The type opposite each others type is shows which secondary passion goes with a types primary passion, for example 9 is sloth, and its secondary is 11's apathy. Please check the theory document to see the rest, and how it corresponds to the metagram.

1. justice, wrath
2. prudence, pride
3. valuation, devaluation
4. temperance, envy
5. detachment, greed
6. trust, mistrust
7. fortitude, gluttony
8. charity, devotion
9. sloth, hope
11. sensibility, apathy
12. placidity, excitability
13. moderation, indulgence
 

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Oaky

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It's being spread far. It's best to make the book before giving the not fully yet complete analysis of the metagram.
 

Zangetshumody

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11 is the psychopath; most of which aren't bad people, this type has trouble picking up on emotional signs being devoid of sensibility, not naturally responsive to body language one might only catch subliminally. The sensibility this type lacks is often more manifest in their lack of feeling, as calculation tries to compensate their disposition. The lacks ingrained standards, missing due to their strong apathy that holds them back from instilling socialized norms within themselves.

12 is the sociopath; this type is actually quite functional, they appear like most other types except for their great intensity, and sharpness that might cut you when you expect a measure of politeness over their strong will to fulfill their whims. They have a very strong sense of what they want to do, and will let few things stop them, they get annoyed easily, often the product of childhoods that underwent great uncertainty, robbing the 12 of a placid temperament. You can often notice the intensity of 12's in their quest to maintain a certain certainty in their schema, often its the propensity to be correct in some manner, and to maintain a calculated schema that affords them a kind static arrangement that substitutes for placidity, threats to this schema are met with a strong negative emotional and or other response.

13 is the indulgent addict; this is the closest to love you will see in the metagram, 13's are indulgent, perhaps in work, or play, whatever it is, if they like doing it, they will embellish their endeavours for their own sake, taking each encounter with indulgence they can take pride in, they often do their best to improve and better their artful tact, or whichever labour they have chosen to be their love. A very pleasant type to be acquainted with, one can almost hear the effort that imitates love in their tone so often.
 

Zangetshumody

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Each type is centred around a sin or vice which displaces the benefits a particular virtue would bestow. The pivotal sin is then combined with a determinable (through the pattern of the Metagram) sin or that sin’s corresponding virtue; the pattern to determine the combinations are simply those sins or virtues which lie opposite the pivotal sin in the Metagram:

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The specific combination of sin and yet another sin (this is most common, but remember it can also be combined with that secondary sin’s counterpart virtue, like a coin that has two sides, the trick is to flip each coin to show virtue or the proper deed [moderation, placidity and sensibility]). These various combinations come together to produce an array of particular energies, for example when a person takes Greed on as their primary sin, this sin makes one horde, combine this with gluttony(the sin that prompts one to engage or seek out), and naturally one might expect of those who focus on collecting and ‘minor’ on seeking, produce of condescending tone. The following are a list of the tones for each type:

<please check: One page theory document, attached to this post as it has a correction in one of the headings>
 

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how does indulgence differ from gluttony?
 

Zangetshumody

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how does indulgence differ from gluttony?

Where there is gluttony there is a hunger, but no idea of what will sate it, this is compensated for by an big reliance of moderation in the type 7. But basically gluttony is a blind force that engages. Indulgence is not so misdirected, it knows what it wants to do, and why its taking the extra effort to do it, because its more enjoyable, to indulge... I hope that makes sense for you.
 

Eric B

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So the enneagram has been extended to a duodecagram (skipping #10 and going up to 13?)
Is this your theory, or is it a variation that's already out there?
 

InvisibleJim

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Yes... why exactly did we skip #10? Seems rather inefficient and #13 is unlucky after all.
 

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Yes... why exactly did we skip #10? Seems rather inefficient and #13 is unlucky after all.

The point of the metagram is to escape the 13 types and become a type 10, someone who isn't seeing the world through a coloured lens. A lens started when one appreciated the need to channel a passion, make it one's mental job after one was schooled by your tenders that one is blessed in this world because of their deeds done and those left undone. A belief that has psychological implications, for it impels the youngster to put down their free scope between the 13 virtues*, to become grown up and play the mental game one adopts as his/her work... the toil that passions bind your consciousness.

tut.tut
 

Zangetshumody

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Edited for clarity from gem's post: The point of the metagram is to escape the 12 (1-9 and 11-13) types and become a type 10, someone who doesn't see the world through a coloured lens. A lens fasioned when one appreciated the need to channel a passion, make it one's mental job after one was schooled by your tenders that one is blessed in this world because of their deeds done and those left undone. A belief that has psychological implications, for it impels the youngster to put down their free scope when one utilizes all of the 13 virtues*, and to become grown up and play the mental game one adopts as his/her work.

If you look at the virtue diagram it seemed like 10 was the best position to place the perfect type, in line with the components of the 7 main virtues, putting love in its rightful place, as all 3 deeds are represented in the 3 synthetic virtues: hope, justice and prudence...
 
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(Enters metagram.) Hey creepy Zangman.
I just referred to the metagram to confirm thoughts about apathy meaning loss of hope...
Confirmation! (Exits metagram back to life.)
 
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I talked with Zang last night about the metagram and how I fit in it. He offered some helpful advice that resonated with me, so I'd recommend that people give it a chance even if the terminology he uses is puts you off. Terms are just symbolic placeholders anyway.
 
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