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    Default Enneagram types described in Big Five

    Enneagram and SLOAN & Enneagram and Big Five

    SLOAN is a variation of Big Five that has type descriptions for Big Five profile, on Similar Minds.
    Using the Enneagram-Big Five table, I can assign SLOAN types to Enneagram types, and having an alternative description for each enneagram. Sadly, the SLOAN descriptions are just words.

    I had decided to compile sub-variation of Enneagram types for the dichotomies where there was not a clear preference.
    Table:



    And:
    SimilarMinds.com > Big 5 / Global 5 / SLOAN Multidimensional Typing System

    So...

    Enneagram 1
    XCOXN

    SCOAN - ESXJ 1
    easy to understand, knows where life is going, not anxious, social, realistic, rarely loses things, is what they appear to be, easy to get to know, does not require lots of time alone to recharge, fearless, not lonely, happy, not self reflective, not doubting, level emotions, peaceful, non-hostile, does not fear failure, content, positive, good at sports, finishes most things they start, likes eye contact, easy to satisfy, accomplishes work on time, self confident, not prone to addiction, narcissistic, likes to lead, socially skilled, assertive, outgoing, trusting, likes crowds, not easily hurt, decisive, does not second guess self, not easily annoyed, religious tendencies, clean, orderly, good at getting people to like them, thinks before acting, usually not bored, worry free, productive, hard working, responsible, punctual, able to stand up for self, very busy, not easily distracted, logical, comfortable around others, not big on solitude, proper, don't get worked up about most things, relaxed, interested in others, generous, planner

    SCOEN - ESTJ 1
    not easily hurt, motivated, likes compliments, not mystical, not prone to envy, not particularly intellectual, decisive, mature, not bitter, not very introspective, fits in most places, traditional, keeps emotions under control, not very artistic, self expressive, values society, averse to stealing, attracted to prestige, keep up an appearance, trusting, does not second guess self, realist, fearless, not a good loser, self confident, does not put the welfare of others ahead of self, competitive, doubt free, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, not afraid to draw attention to self, demanding, not easily hurt, not known for generosity, speaks up regardless of consequences, able to stand up for self, accomplishes work on time, rarely compliments people, productive, hard working, impatient, good at sports, makes plans and sticks with them, prefer to lead, controlling, aggressive, not easily frustrated, not embarrassed by praise, does not require lots of time alone to recharge, opinionated, more dominant than submissive

    RCOAN - ISFJ 1
    not spontaneous, unadventurous, uncompetitive, not relationship obsessed, toned down, not physically affectionate with most people, not outgoing, does not like to be the center of attention, organized, level emotions, thinks before acting, prefers organized to unpredictable, religious tendencies, easy to understand, risk averse, realistic, modest, focused, more responsible than pleasure seeking, not prone to addiction, not wild and crazy, feels ordinary, punctual, prefers to finish things ahead of schedule, patient, always prepared, averse to crowds, exacting in their work, not big on philosophical discussions, not interested in science, predictable, honest, averse to change, lower energy level, avoids making mistakes, private, not hard to satisfy, not easily discouraged, not very curious, not prone to jealousy, values rules and regulations, not prone to displays of anger, calm in crisis, forgiving, responsible, proper, socially unskilled, usually happy, does not like small talk

    RCOEN - ISTJ 1
    not concerned with public image, not spontaneous, realistic, low maintenance, thinks before acting, does not second guess self, not relationship obsessed, withdrawn, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, money is more important than acceptance, level emotions, does not put the welfare of others before self, not known for generosity, retaliatory, not forgiving, selfish, driven by reason, private, avoids difficult reading material, not physically affectionate with most people, unadventurous, insensitive to the needs of others, does not like touchy feely people, believes in an eye for an eye, avoids small talk, avoids crowds, does not back down when threatened, not than interested in people, thinks fun is not the most important thing in life, fearless, acts without consulting others, does not frequently reinvent self, not easily frightened, not that willing to compromise, not open to new experiences, does not believe in human goodness, not open about feelings, does not like to look weak, socially unskilled, hard to excite, not prone to comedy, more responsible than pleasure seeking

    Enneagram 2

    SXXAN

    SLOAN - ESFJ 2 & somewhat ENFJ 2 (Neurotic)
    makes plans and sticks to them, easily moved to tears, prefers organized to unpredictable, easy to get to know, clean, orderly, easily frustrated, heart over mind, prefers to finish things ahead of schedule, always on the go, organized, tense, easily hurt, prone to panic, religious tendencies, gregarious, open, punctual, perfectionist, realist, narcissistic, worrying, values rules and regulations, uninterested in science, competitive, interested in others, always prepared, aggressive, fears doing the wrong thing, generous, helpful, hard working, productive, socially skilled, ambivalent about theoretical discussions, strong sense of purpose, likes to lead, apologetic, finishes most things they start, not scientific, dislikes science fiction, spends more time in group activities than solitary activities, not mystical, not manipulative, traditional, emotional, fits in most places, feels best when romantically involved, prefers the familiar to the unfamiliar, motivated, prefers to do things with others

    SLUAN - ESFP 2 & somewhat ENFP 2 (Neurotic)
    often late, influenced more by others than self, easily frustrated, frequently driven to impress others, easily moved to tears, does not believe everything can be explained scientifically, fires back when someone hurts them, not analytical, easily distracted, does not always know what they are doing, easy to get to know, easily impressed, easily influenced, rarely prepared, not controlling, prone to jealousy, not bothered by disorder, low self confidence, acts without hesitation, not self reflective, thinks fun is the most important thing in life, worrying, easily hurt, spontaneous, tense, high maintenance, not detail oriented, unpredictable, prone to attachment, not interested in science, not afraid to draw attention to self, anxious, does not know why they do some things, not strict with self, inexplicably happy some of the time, attentive to appearances, underachiever, bases goals on inspiration rather than logic, will do a lot to avoid rejection, swayed by emotions, uses acts of kindness to get closer to people

    SCOAN - ESFJ 2 & somewhat ENFJ 2 (Emotional Stable)
    easy to understand, knows where life is going, not anxious, social, realistic, rarely loses things, is what they appear to be, easy to get to know, does not require lots of time alone to recharge, fearless, not lonely, happy, not self reflective, not doubting, level emotions, peaceful, non-hostile, does not fear failure, content, positive, good at sports, finishes most things they start, likes eye contact, easy to satisfy, accomplishes work on time, self confident, not prone to addiction, narcissistic, likes to lead, socially skilled, assertive, outgoing, trusting, likes crowds, not easily hurt, decisive, does not second guess self, not easily annoyed, religious tendencies, clean, orderly, good at getting people to like them, thinks before acting, usually not bored, worry free, productive, hard working, responsible, punctual, able to stand up for self, very busy, not easily distracted, logical, comfortable around others, not big on solitude, proper, don't get worked up about most things, relaxed, interested in others, generous, planner

    SCUAN - ESFP 2 & somewhat ENFP 2 (Emotional Stable)
    spends more time in group activities than solitary activities, not easily hurt, does not like to do things alone, comes alive in night life activities and crowds, trusting, fits in most places, positive, more comfortable when things are imperfect, more artistic than articulate, does not like to go days without speaking to anyone, more abstract than logical, not self absorbed, not materialistic, self expressive, modest, not vain, likes change, not introspective, happiest when helping others, loyal to a fault, wild and crazy, acts without thinking or planning, thoughtful, happy doing mindless work, easy to persuade, socially comfortable, high energy level, rarely prepared, outgoing, self confident, level emotions, not interested in science, easy to get to know, fearless, content, positive, optimistic, not easily hurt, relaxed, usually happy, able to disregard rules, underachiever, likes to tell jokes, not embarrassed easily, adapts easily to new situations, interested in others

    Enneagram 3 & Enneagram 8

    SXOEX (Enneagram 3 and 8 are more or less the same on Big Five)

    SLOEN - ESTJ 3/8 (Neurotic)
    dislikes science fiction, would not be happy if they were poor, not mystical, materialistic, likes compliments, values organized religion, motivated, not very introspective, uncomfortable with imperfection, very attentive to the social hierarchy, prone to envy, sees friendships as alliances, does not like to go days without speaking to anyone, self absorbed, more articulate than artistic, prefers instant gratification, not very intellectual, more logical than abstract, defensive, wants to be an authority figure, thinks loyalty is more important than individuality, keeps up an appearance, quick tempered, feels best when admired, feels best when thin, wants things done their way, feels best when they think they are great, emotional, feels best when others find them physically attractive, prefers to stick with things they know, dislikes gambling, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, prefers organized to unpredictable, perfectionist, controlling, demanding, values rules and regulations, not very interested in theoretical discussions, driven to impress others

    SLOEI - ENTJ 3/8 (Neurotic)
    demanding, controlling, aggressive, retaliatory, does not forgive easily, opinionated, domineering, does not accept what others say, believes that appearances are important, likes to be the center of attention, not patient with people who annoy them, easily annoyed, quick to judge others, preoccupied with self, show off, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, prone to addiction, not good at sports, frequently pursues impressive achievements, takes charge, competitive, frustrated and angry when people don't live up to expectations, not on good terms with everyone, second place rarely feels good enough to them, antagonistic, able to stand up for self, acts superior to others, hard to satisfy, bothered by disorder, impatient, becomes aggressive when they feel hurt, decisive, abrupt, impulsive, more dominant than submissive, finishes most things they start, desires some level of fame in their community, unable to control cravings, acts out frustrations on others, easily frustrated, can become overwhelmed by events, does not readily admit mistakes, moody, not very religious

    SCOEN - ESTJ 3/8 (Emotional Stable)
    not easily hurt, motivated, likes compliments, not mystical, not prone to envy, not particularly intellectual, decisive, mature, not bitter, not very introspective, fits in most places, traditional, keeps emotions under control, not very artistic, self expressive, values society, averse to stealing, attracted to prestige, keep up an appearance, trusting, does not second guess self, realist, fearless, not a good loser, self confident, does not put the welfare of others ahead of self, competitive, doubt free, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, not afraid to draw attention to self, demanding, not easily hurt, not known for generosity, speaks up regardless of consequences, able to stand up for self, accomplishes work on time, rarely compliments people, productive, hard working, impatient, good at sports, makes plans and sticks with them, prefer to lead, controlling, aggressive, not easily frustrated, not embarrassed by praise, does not require lots of time alone to recharge, opinionated, more dominant than submissive

    SCOEI - ENTJ 3/8 (Emotional Stable)
    not afraid of doing the wrong thing, speaks up regardless of consequences, not filled with doubt, more dominant than submissive, not afraid to draw attention to self, self confident, does not back down when threatened, decisive, feels you have to be tough on people to get things done, not easily hurt, worry free, not easily intimidated, not concerned with failure when trying something new, aggressive, fearless, controlling, domineering, ambivalent about the suffering of strangers, not easily discouraged, out for own personal gain, comfortable in unfamiliar situations, unconcerned with the misfortunes of strangers, likes giving speeches, not easily moved to tears, manipulative, unapologetic, knows where life is going, narcissistic, exacting in their work, does not second guess self, untouched by other people's feelings, the first to act, level emotions, never at a loss for words, opinionated, demanding, goes after what they want, believes in a logical answer for everything, not very religious, show off, calm in crisis

    Enneagram 4

    RLUXI

    RLUAI (Agreeable 4)
    moody, not good at sports, low energy level, unable to speak up for self, avoidant, depressed, withdrawn, attracted to things associated with sadness, easily frightened, feels defective, lonely, no self confidence, easily discouraged, avoids crowds, backs down when threatened, easily intimidated, socially unskilled, loner, unproductive, late with work, prone to health problems, focuses on fantasies more than reality, self loathing, wounded at the core, easily hurt, often sad, becomes overwhelmed by events, fearful, rarely prepared, fears doing the wrong thing, often aware how the color and lighting of a room affects their mood, feels untalented, quiet around strangers, prone to addiction, doubting, anxious, easily confused, frequently overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, weak sense of purpose, relates to broken and discarded things, unsure where life is going, continually losing things, fears drawing attention to self, avoids unnecessary interaction, often bored, second guesses self, embarrassed by praise, worrying, resigned, prone to jealousy

    RLUEI (Egocentric 4)
    avoidant, withdrawn, not usually happy, does not believe in human goodness, loner, moody, avoids crowds, depressed, overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings frequently, agnostic/atheistic tendencies, unsure where life is going, impatient, avoids eye contact, does not think things work out for the best, discontent, negative, suspicious of others, uncooperative, socially uncomfortable, hard to get to know, not punctual, low self confidence, pessimistic, lonely, does not finish work on time, does not like to lead, attracted to things associated with sadness, ambivalent about the problems of others, feels defective, fears failure, often bored, ambivalent about the suffering of others, unproductive, avoids unnecessary interaction, easily frustrated, does not finish many things, lower energy level, focuses on fantasies instead of reality, ambivalent about the needs of others, easily annoyed, rarely prepared, disorganized, quiet around strangers, slow to forgive, hard to understand, not that interested in others, skeptical, wounded at the core, self absorbed

    PS: SLOAN seems to hate type 4s lol.

    Enneagram 5

    RXXEI

    RLOEI - INTJ 5 (Neurotic)
    withdrawn, loner, moody, dislikes crowds, avoidant, not big on fun, socially unskilled, not that interested in others, overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings frequently, depressed, requires lots of time alone to recharge, socially awkward, hard to get to know, feels defective, averse to change, low self confidence, dislikes small talk, dislikes touchy feely types, private, not prone to complimenting others, driven by own personal gain, pessimistic, self absorbed, indifferent to the feelings of others, does not easily forgive, inflexible, skeptical, embarrassed easily, tense, lower energy level, attracted to things associated with sadness, very suspicious of others, does not believe in human goodness, interested in intellectual pursuits, does not put the welfare of others ahead of self, lonely, not known for generosity, unadventurous, doubting, quick to judge others, discontent, hard to understand, wounded at the core, believes in a logical answer for everything, worrying, uncooperative, agnostic/atheist tendencies, has anxiety, not physically affectionate with most people, feels second place is not good enough, frustrated when people don't live up to expectations

    RLUEI - INTP 5 (Neurotic)
    avoidant, withdrawn, not usually happy, does not believe in human goodness, loner, moody, avoids crowds, depressed, overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings frequently, agnostic/atheistic tendencies, unsure where life is going, impatient, avoids eye contact, does not think things work out for the best, discontent, negative, suspicious of others, uncooperative, socially uncomfortable, hard to get to know, not punctual, low self confidence, pessimistic, lonely, does not finish work on time, does not like to lead, attracted to things associated with sadness, ambivalent about the problems of others, feels defective, fears failure, often bored, ambivalent about the suffering of others, unproductive, avoids unnecessary interaction, easily frustrated, does not finish many things, lower energy level, focuses on fantasies instead of reality, ambivalent about the needs of others, easily annoyed, rarely prepared, disorganized, quiet around strangers, slow to forgive, hard to understand, not that interested in others, skeptical, wounded at the core, self absorbed

    RCOEI - INTJ 5 (Emotionally stable)
    withdrawn, not wild and crazy, private, loner, not relationship obsessed, not swayed by emotions, insensitive to the needs of others, unhelpful, interested in intellectual pursuits, avoidant, does not put the needs of others ahead of self, thinks before acting, very scientific, not upset by the misfortune of strangers, avoids small talk, values solitude, private, does not get worked up about most things, fearless, unaffected by the suffering of others, calm in crisis, not easily excited, won't do much to avoid rejection, not known for generosity, not easily confused, cold, not prone to complimenting others, dislikes most people but tries to get along to minimize hostility, hard to get to know, more dominant than submissive, not easily hurt, driven by reason, influenced more by self than others, rarely worried, hard to impress, not that interested in relationships, hard to influence, not concerned about failing when trying something new, self confident, knows why they do things, not easily moved to tears, not prone to jealousy, not guided by moods

    RCUEI - INTP 5 (Emotional stable)
    atheist/agnostic tendencies, unconcerned with public image, lower energy level, does not value tradition, avoidant, does not put the welfare of others above self, not punctual, unproductive, does not believe in human goodness, not easily moved to tears, seldom bothered by the suffering of strangers, insensitive to the needs of others, relaxed, quiet around strangers, tendency to believe only in self, people have trouble reading them but they don't care, late finishing work, acts without planning, withdrawn, rarely too busy, not a perfectionist, uncooperative, not prone to complimenting people, does not believe in life after death, avoids crowds, prefers unpredictable to organized, not passionate about bettering the world's condition, does not second guess self, able to control cravings, calm in crisis, ambivalent to the feelings of others, believes in the importance of art, dislikes small talk, socially uncomfortable, private, not known for generosity, acts without consulting others, hard to get to know, not easily frustrated, interested in intellectual pursuits, not open about feelings, loner, asks many questions, open to change, influenced more by self than others, bored at work


    Enneagram 6 (phobic)

    RLOAN
    not spontaneous, prefers organized to unpredictable, reserved, fearful, unadventurous, anxious, insecure, plays it safe, more responsible than pleasure seeking, easily intimidated, risk averse, easily frightened, uncomfortable in unfamiliar situations, easily hurt, attached to conventional ways, maintains spaces in orderly manner, second guesses self, backs down when threatened, afraid of providing criticism, quiet around strangers, afraid to draw attention to self, worrying, overwhelmed by unpleasant emotions frequently, averse to crowds, private, easily moved to tears, fears failure, does not like arguments, unable to disregard rules, unable to speak up for self, embarrassed easily, easy to persuade, finishes most things they start, not good at telling jokes, not very curious, modest, depressed, feels ordinary, not wild and crazy, planner, prone to panic, organized, not big on philosophical discussions, skeptical, apologetic, values rules and regulations, prefers to finish things ahead of schedule, socially unskilled, inflexible, punctual

    Enneagram 7

    SCUXI

    SCUAI - ENFP 7 & partially ESFP 7
    life of the party, not bothered by disorder, not afraid of doing the wrong thing, often late, level emotions, not afraid to draw attention to self, worry free, people loving, prefers unpredictable to organized, fearless, not apprehensive about new encounters, likes philosophical discussions, disorganized, not easily annoyed, not a perfectionist, enjoys danger, comfortable in unfamiliar situations, anxiety free, always joking, not very private, very curious, not embarrassed easily, adventurous, flexible, narcissistic, trusting, easy to get to know, easy to satisfy, likes crowds, ready to act on the spot, not a bad loser, outgoing, thrill seeker, not easily discouraged, optimistic, laid back, open to new experience, slow to judge others, thinks fun is the most important think in life, socially skilled, easily talked into doing silly things, rarely prepared, willing to take risks, adjusts easily, passionate about causes, willing to explain things twice, spontaneous, relaxed, believes in universal harmony, eager to soothe hurt feelings

    SCUEI - ENTP 7 & partially ESTP 7
    not afraid of doing the wrong things, does not value rules and regulations, prefers unpredictable to organized, does not accomplish work on time, needs to maintain high levels of excitement, out for own personal gain, not afraid to draw attention to self, more pleasure seeking than responsible, not bothered by disorder, retaliatory, thrives on the rush of risk taking, unpredictable, asks questions that nobody else does, often does not know what they are doing, spontaneous, first to act, not easily hurt, not apprehensive about new encounters, does not readily admit mistakes, not a perfectionist, not apologetic, disorganized, socially comfortable, outgoing, calm in crisis, fearless, atheist/agnostic tendencies, good at getting people to have fun, opinionated, not easily moved to tears, sexually immodest, adventurous, unconventional, aggressive, often late, high energy level, likes the spotlight, ambivalent about the needs of others, worry free, acts without thinking or planning, bad at saving money, selfish

    Enneagram 9

    RCUAN
    uncompetitive, unadventurous, level emotions, not bothered by disorder, not spontaneous, dislikes the spotlight, does not like to display anger, backs down when threatened, risk averse, unambitious, disorganized, messy, unconcerned with prestige/impressiveness, not detail oriented, not manipulative, slow to acquire skills, patient, not relationship obsessed, not aggressive, not wild and crazy, not physically affectionate with most people, underachiever, easily deterred, no interest in leadership, inattentive to the social hierarchy, not superficial, independent, not self absorbed, does not look for hidden meaning in things, modest, can be easily deterred, patient, embarrassed by praise, tolerant, not guided by moods, not very inquisitive, not easily frustrated, not prone to jealousy, easily confused, forgiving, not punctual, easy to satisfy, rarely prepared, private, avoids crowds, attached to conventional ways, not interested in science, slow to judge others, not open about feelings, not prone to addiction, positive, patient, not interested in abstract ideas, feels ordinary, willing to try new things, not materialistic

    Enneagram and Big Five

    I also found a website with two type descriptions on Big Five, crossing two Big Five traits.
    I dont like totally these descriptions because they are too Conscientiousness prone, in ways that Conscientiousness is sometimes mistaken as Agreeableness.

    Enneagram 1

    High Conscientiousness crossed with High Emotional Stability or Low Openness

    PERSISTENT TYPE (High C, High S)
    Persistent Types are hard-working, stable individuals who perform well in structured, rule-governed environments. They are described by others as rule-abiding, composed, persevering, conscientious, trustworthy, cooperative, traditional, predictable, simple, and down- to-earth.

    CONVENTIONAL TYPE (High C, Low O)
    Conventional types are tradition-oriented persons who always "go by the book" rather than improvising, innovating, or thinking for themselves. They are quite responsible and can be relied on to follow directions and get the job done. They are described by others as agreeable, simple, and down-to-earth.

    Enneagram 2

    Main trait is high Agreeableness, crossed with High Extroversion.

    PERSONABLE TYPE (High E, High A)
    Personable Types enjoy interacting with other people. Personable individuals frequently experience and express positive emotions and are therefore typically well-liked by others. They derive satisfaction from helping, and are well-suited for careers in the helping professions (counseling, teaching, nursing, human services). They are described by others as cheerful, confident, sociable, vigorous, enthusiastic, and friendly.

    Enneagram 3

    Enneagram 3 is high on achievement-striving, which is a Conscientiousness facet, so its main trait is a sub-trait of Conscientiousness. Conscientiousness can be crossed with Extraversion or low Agreeableness.

    ENTERPRISING TYPE (High E, High C)
    Enterprising Types strive for success as defined by conventional social standards. They are ambitious, competitive, achievement-oriented, purposeful, leaderlike, and willing to move into positions of authority. Their probability of success in leadership roles will increase with higher scores on Agreeableness, Emotional Stability, and Openness.

    MORALISTIC TYPE (Low A, High C)
    Moralistic Types are rule-oriented achievers who sometimes ignore the feelings of others in order to get the job done. Principles are more important than people to moralistic types, and they can be equally hard on themselves. This achievement-oriented, hard-driven type has great initiative and moves readily into positions of authority. They believe in working with and through the system and in advancing upward through hard work. They are unlikely to take risks, and their leadership style is likely to be seen as no-nonsense and instrumental. They are described by others as well-read, tense, and reserved.
    [this description is wrong because Morality is a facet of Agreeableness]

    Enneagram 4

    Type 4 primary trait is related to Openness to Experience, as Emotions and Artistic Interests are Openness to Experience facet. This trait can be crossed with low Extraversion (but overlaps with type 5 and that description is closer to type 5) or low Conscientiousness.

    FANCIFUL/IMAGINATIVE TYPE (Low C, High O)
    Fanciful/Imaginative Types are unconventional nonconformists who pride themselves on being different from others. They are not so much openly antisocial and disruptive in their behavior as they are fanciful, impractical, and unconcerned about the general welfare of others. They are described by others as complex, imaginative, and critical.

    Enneagram 5

    Type 5 is related to intellect, which is a Openness facet. Problem is, Openness is in blank, but its still an important trait. That can be crossed with Low Extraversion or Low Agreeableness (also, Low Extraversion and Low Agreeableness is an alternative).

    BOOKWORMISH TYPE (Low E, High O)
    Bookwormish Types are highly intellectual, introspective, self- examining loners. Although they keep to themselves, their level of intelligence and learning garners them respect for others. They are described by other persons as learned, well-read, persevering, rule- abiding, calm, and industrious.

    DISTANT TYPE (Low E, Low A)
    Distant Types show an active disinterest in other people. They are detached, skeptical, cynical loners who find little joy in human relations. They are described by others as solitary, depressed, worried, introverted, and shy.

    INDIVIDUALISTIC TYPE (Low A, High O)
    Individualistic types consider themselves to be unique and more intelligent than most people around them. In extreme cases they might be regarded as eccentric, but in most cases they are perceived by others as complex, well-read, imaginative, and industrious.

    Enneagram 6 (phobic)

    Type 6 are known for being anxious and phobia, which is a neuroticism trait. But also means closed to experience, which makes Low Stability and Low Openness the best description. But also low emotional stability and low extraversion serves as a good fit.

    MUDDLED TYPE (Low S, Low O)
    Muddled types tend to be anxious about things that lie beyond their limited scope of understanding. They protect themselves by living in the past and showing contempt for novel or foreign ideas They are described by others as irritable, anxious, nervous, reminiscent, apathetic, unambitious, self-centered, unreliable, and negligent.

    DISCOURAGED TYPE (Low E, Low S)
    Discouraged Types are not happy with their present life situation but feel there is no way out because they lack the ability to improve their life circumstances. They are perceived by others as unambitious, unenergetic, shy, solitary, passive, introverted, cowardly, pessimistic, insecure, and fearful.

    Enneagram 7

    Main traits of type 7 are, doubtless, High Openness to Experience and High Extraversion, but, also, Low Conscientiousness, which generates 3 combinations. But Low C and High O already belongs to type 4.

    DEBONAIR TYPE (High E, High O)
    Debonair Types are intelligent extraverts. In their worldliness they can be quite witty and charming. They have a flair for the dramatic, and can be histrionic and theatrical. People are naturally attracted to debonair types, but if a debonair type dislikes somebody, he or she can swiftly cut that person to the quick. Therefore, this type is generally described with positive terms such as enterprising, eloquent, forward-looking, confident, and sexy, but can also be described as critical, candid, and intense.

    IMPULSIVE TYPE (High E, Low C)
    Impulsive Types are exhibitionists who act outrageously in order to attract attention from others. Often rather unconventional, risk- taking, flamboyant, they also need and enjoy social stimulation. They are described by others as talkative, outgoing, changeable, blunt, and outspoken.

    Enneagram 8

    Enneagram 8 is known for the aggressive and competitiveness.
    The aggressiveness can be more or less be seem as low Agreeableness.
    That can be crossed with Extraversion.

    DOMINEERING TYPE (High E, Low A)
    Domineering Types enjoy exerting power and influence over others and strive to control them without taking their feelings into account. They are seen by others as critical, self-centered, stubborn, and bossy.

    Enneagram 9

    Enneagram 9 main trait is, no doubt, Emotional Stability.
    The others are secondary, which origins a good variety of type 9. High Stability can be crossed with High Agreeableness, Low Extroversion and Low Conscientiousness (Low Openness isnt really that much of an important trait, specially because Enneagram mostly ignores N/S and ignores Openness except for type 4 and type 7).

    PLEASANT TYPE (High A, High S)
    Pleasant Types are full of positive emotions and free from negative emotions. They are almost universally liked. They are described by others as confident, cheerful, relaxed, tolerant, composed, calm, goodnatured, poised, persevering, vigorous, enterprising, extraverted, warm, trustworthy, empathic, conscientious, cooperative, simple, traditional, predictable, and down-to-earth.

    SATISFIED TYPE (Low E, High S)
    Satisfied Types who feel they have risen above the problems of living and are content with things as they are. They see little point in getting involved in a rat-race to struggle to the top of the heap. They see stability and security as more important than getting ahead and are likely to be content with a respectable job in their home town, earning just enough money to make a living. They are described by others with terms such as sedate, tranquil, placid, ethical, responsible, unexcitable, and unassuming.

    CAREFREE TYPE (Low C, High S) [overlaps with type 7]
    Carefree Types are folksy, simple, happy-go-lucky persons. They are unconcerned about rules, schedules, and routines, but are not actively antisocial or hostile to authority. They are described by others with terms such as informal, self-assured, extraverted, and unlettered.

    Source for the descriptions:
    IPIP NEO Descriptions

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    Thats it!
    Well, the way things connects are really proper, since the Big Five descriptions of Enneagram types gets them quite well.

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    How does counterphobic 6 fit it?

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    Why emotional stability for 9 and not agreeableness?

    I'm not sure I agree that the systems are compatible enough for this to be deeply useful (I'm a bit biased since I'm an outlier 9 according to this, having low emotional stability.) It's interesting, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    How does counterphobic 6 fit it?
    Good question, I dont know much.
    In many statistics and tests, type 6 is tested as phobic.
    My guess at readings - its a good one - is that counterphobic 6 fits as a Low Conscientiousness types and that if you put a survey grouping 6 phobic vs 6 counter-phobic, counter phobic 6 would have a tendency towards perceiving and phobic 6 towards judging. Counter 6 phobic are supposed by concept to be less cautious/deliberation, which is a conscientiousness trait. They also have a tendency to be a little bit more towards higher Openness, because of the adventure facet. However, they should still keep type 6 anxiety aspect, and the anxiety aspect gravitates towards Neuroticism. So, I think low S and low C is a good fit for Counter-phobic 6, but there is one problem: "Counterphobic Sixes are often defiant or rebellious towards authority and habitually find counterexamples to whatever others assert. Despite this attitude, counterphobics are often loyal, hard-driven workers and highly idealistic." (link) This is related to that thing where "whatever you say about 6, the opposite is often true", which pretty much makes 6s on the middle of most dichotomies, or so mixed to the point where there is no Low or High, just everything is middle (so with that the phrase makes sense). Ignoring the whatever you say the opposite is true, type 6 counter phobic fits best as Low C and Low S, but considering the whatever you say the opposite is true, there is no proper type on to associate with type 6.

    SCATTERED TYPE (Low C, Low S)
    Scattered Types show emotional instability that affects both their thinking and their social relationships. Internally they are inconsistent, erratic and forgetful; in groups they can be impulsive, nosy, gossipy, and self-indulgent. On the job, their unpredictability may annoy co-workers and supervisors. Others describe them as unorthodox, changeable, complex, imaginative, rule-avoiding, moody, quitting, negligent, unreliable, stubborn, self-centered, and unreflective.

    Remember that for the regular enneagram, anxiety is considered a type 6 trait, as if it is a personality trait and not a personality disorder. Which I think its odd and unproper, but I do consider as a critical trait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    Why emotional stability for 9 and not agreeableness?

    I'm not sure I agree that the systems are compatible enough for this to be deeply useful (I'm a bit biased since I'm an outlier 9 according to this, having low emotional stability.) It's interesting, though.
    Well, although I had stated firmly, that is by my own self-perception. I think lots of agreeableness traits are related to type 2, like Generous, Demonstrative, People-Pleasing, although the word agreeableness is mentioned on type 9 briefly and that the peaceful aspect of type 9 is more important.
    But type 9 is relatively similar in terms of Agreeableness of type 2, to the point where type 2 and type 9 connects with each other, although not strong enough to make the regular enneagram inconsistent.

    And I love doing these kinds of readings because they wide our perception of what is the enneagram type.
    These analysis reveals details about what the average type 9 is that we dont know.
    And these descriptions can also create sub-types of enneagram types where there is no clear preference for the average type 9, and these are interesting.
    I dont think we are fully one type at all, and that there is somewhat of a list of type 9 traits and stuff, and you seem to not be normal on one of the main one of them.
    The text-book 9 is indeed emotionally stable.
    We, dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendrah View Post
    Good question, I dont know much. In many statistics and tests, type 6 is tested as phobic. My guess at readings - its a good one - is that counterphobic 6 fits as a Low Conscientiousness types and that if you put a survey grouping 6 phobic vs 6 counter-phobic, counter phobic 6 would have a tendency towards perceiving and phobic 6 towards judging. Counter 6 phobic are supposed by concept to be less cautious/deliberation, which is a conscientiousness trait. They also have a tendency to be a little bit more towards higher Openness, because of the adventure facet. However, they should still keep type 6 anxiety aspect, and the anxiety aspect gravitates towards Neuroticism. So, I think low S and low C is a good fit for Counter-phobic 6, but there is one problem: "Counterphobic Sixes are often defiant or rebellious towards authority and habitually find counterexamples to whatever others assert. Despite this attitude, counterphobics are often loyal, hard-driven workers and highly idealistic." (link) This is related to that thing where "whatever you say about 6, the opposite is often true", which pretty much makes 6s on the middle of most dichotomies, or so mixed to the point where there is no Low or High, just everything is middle (so with that the phrase makes sense). Ignoring the whatever you say the opposite is true, type 6 counter phobic fits best as Low C and Low S, but considering the whatever you say the opposite is true, there is no proper type on to associate with type 6. SCATTERED TYPE (Low C, Low S) Scattered Types show emotional instability that affects both their thinking and their social relationships. Internally they are inconsistent, erratic and forgetful; in groups they can be impulsive, nosy, gossipy, and self-indulgent. On the job, their unpredictability may annoy co-workers and supervisors. Others describe them as unorthodox, changeable, complex, imaginative, rule-avoiding, moody, quitting, negligent, unreliable, stubborn, self-centered, and unreflective. Remember that for the regular enneagram, anxiety is considered a type 6 trait, as if it is a personality trait and not a personality disorder. Which I think its odd and unproper, but I do consider as a critical trait. Well, although I had stated firmly, that is by my own self-perception. I think lots of agreeableness traits are related to type 2, like Generous, Demonstrative, People-Pleasing, although the word agreeableness is mentioned on type 9 briefly and that the peaceful aspect of type 9 is more important. But type 9 is relatively similar in terms of Agreeableness of type 2, to the point where type 2 and type 9 connects with each other, although not strong enough to make the regular enneagram inconsistent. And I love doing these kinds of readings because they wide our perception of what is the enneagram type. These analysis reveals details about what the average type 9 is that we dont know. And these descriptions can also create sub-types of enneagram types where there is no clear preference for the average type 9, and these are interesting. I dont think we are fully one type at all, and that there is somewhat of a list of type 9 traits and stuff, and you seem to not be normal on one of the main one of them. The text-book 9 is indeed emotionally stable. We, dont.
    As a countrephobic 6, i am high S and C so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    As a countrephobic 6, i am high S and C so...
    You were on the past when you pick up that type?
    I mean, you should pick up type 6 some good years ago..
    I dont mean to be offensive here...

    I believe that MBTI and Jung type type can be very stable through time. But Jung says it changes.
    For Big Five, it is recognizably generally stable, but there are slow changes with time.
    In enneagram, it depends on the type. I dont think type 6 is a stable one. Type 6 has the 'anxious' characteristic attached to it, plus the phobia and the 'counter-phobia'. I dont see any of these as permanent. I am quite of critical into some of the enneagram stuff, and I dont think it was a smart move to attribute anxiety as a trait of a type, and neither the phobia or the counter phobia.
    I know that a lot of people can distort speech to fix that, but I am not a believer that there is a stable personal anxiety, phobia or counter phobia.

    EDIT: But type 6 always have the 'whatever you say, the opposite is true', which as mentioned in some other threads, it serves as a scapegoat for discussion to feat nearly everyone, although, rigorously, it should be a property related to people who mark "neither agree nor disagree" a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendrah View Post
    You were on the past when you pick up that type? I mean, you should pick up type 6 some good years ago.. I dont mean to be offensive here... I believe that MBTI and Jung type type can be very stable through time. But Jung says it changes. For Big Five, it is recognizably generally stable, but there are slow changes with time. In enneagram, it depends on the type. I dont think type 6 is a stable one. Type 6 has the 'anxious' characteristic attached to it, plus the phobia and the 'counter-phobia'. I dont see any of these as permanent. I am quite of critical into some of the enneagram stuff, and I dont think it was a smart move to attribute anxiety as a trait of a type, and neither the phobia or the counter phobia. I know that a lot of people can distort speech to fix that, but I am not a believer that there is a stable personal anxiety, phobia or counter phobia. EDIT: But type 6 always have the 'whatever you say, the opposite is true', which as mentioned in some other threads, it serves as a scapegoat for discussion to feat nearly everyone, although, rigorously, it should be a property related to people who mark "neither agree nor disagree" a lot.
    Hmmmm. I woukd learn more about 6. We can be very stable and I woukd guess I have always been lvery low on neuroticism.
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