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    1. What drives you in life? What do you look for?
    - Being on top, I'm very competitive and always want to win. I work best when I'm calling the shots and leading a team.

    2. What do you hope to accomplish in your life?
    - I want to make some much needed changes to the education system which would help a lot of people out and I want to be recognised for doing so. I want to be rich.

    3. What do you hope to avoid doing or being? What values are important to you?
    - I hate losing, so winning is important to me. I'm very out of touch with my own feelings so describing my values would be hard.

    4. What are your biggest fears (not including phobias)? Why?
    - My biggest fears are failure and boredom (in that order). Failure is extremely embarrassing to me.

    5. How do you want others to see you? How do you see yourself?
    - I want others to see me as successful but also a helpful friend.

    6. What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
    - I feel best when I'm winning and getting shit done, I feel worst when I stagnate and go into a slump.

    7. Describe how you experience each of: a) anger; b) shame; c) anxiety.
    A) I have had some issues with anger in my life, I don't usually let it get the best of me though. I definitely have a feisty streak though and if someone comes for one of my friends I will stick up for them.
    B) Shame is a big factor in my life, I avoid situations that could embarrass me and make me look bad and I like to take charge of groups/teams in order to avoid the shame of failure/inferiority.
    C) The main relation to anxiety I have is FOMO (Fear of Missing Out). I don't want to miss out on a good opportunity so I will try to take on more than I can sometimes handle.

    8. Describe how you respond to each of: a) stress; b) unexpected change; c) conflict.
    A) When I get stressed 2 things happen, firstly I become manipulative and exploitative and then I fall into pure apathy and withdraw.
    B) Unexpected change doesn't bother me, I'm a very adaptable person and can successfully handle change.
    C) Conflict doesn't usually bother me, I know how to handle it in a way that has me coming out looking better.

    9. Describe your orientation to: a) authority; b) power. How do you respond to these?
    A) I don't usually like authority but I will "kiss up" in a sense and lie/scheme if it gets me to where I want to be.
    B) Power is something I am drawn to. I want to be in control, I like to be perceived as a good leader and I am good at delegating roles to people to make things more efficient.

    10. What is your overall outlook on life and humanity?
    My life of course has ups and downs, but I intend to win the game of life as I am not afraid to take action that allows me to achieve what I want to achieve. I am quite a sociable person, I have no issues networking, leading to create a certain image of myself that will benefit me the most. I am good at sizing people up, seeing through their bullshit.

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    11. Discuss an event that has impacted your life significantly; more importantly, how you responded to it.
    - Well very recently I received an unconditional offer for university which lit a "spark" in my life and got me out of an apathetic slump, I am now very motivated to succeed with flying colours at my Sociology degree when I go to university!

    12. Comment on your relationship with trust.
    - I'd describe myself as trusting to an extent, I'm not paranoid but I am aware that people may not always be what they say they are. I wouldn't say I have trust issues however, I generally know who to trust and who not to.

    13. List some of the traits you: a) like; b) dislike most about yourself.
    - I like how good I am at socialising with others, I like how I can adapt to situations and go after what I want.
    - I dislike how I can sometimes disintegrate into apathy and how I often fall into "fake it till you make it".

    14. What do you see or notice in others that most people don't?
    - I notice when people are being phony and using people (probably because of my history with doing this myself).

    15. If a stranger insults you, how do you respond/feel? What if they compliment you?
    - If they insult me, I won't outwardly show I'm bothered but inside I do care what people think of me. If people compliment me, I'll compliment them back of course. Build that rapport.

    16. What's something you are: a) thankful you have; b) wish you could have? Why?
    A) Opportunities to succeed - because these will allow me to accomplish everything in life that I want to
    B) More money - they say money is power, and power allows one to rise to the top. So yeah, I'd be able to achieve even more with more money.
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    Based on this alone, you sound like a 3 core (probably 378 in that order; You don't elaborate much on things, so it's tough to see wings anywhere). Disintegration to 9 seems to make the most sense considering your tendency to fall into apathy and adaptable image style (which also relates to 3). This questionaire makes you sound sort of sx blind, but again, it might just be the lack of information.

    A) What does power mean to you? How about failure?
    B) You say you avoid emotions to a degree, but how introspective would you consider yourself as a whole? Why do you avoid it? What situations will make you introspect?
    C) What would happen if you couldn't be rich or if you were forced to be in a situation where you were put in poverty? What would this mean to you, what are the biggest effects this would have.
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    A) Power means being seen as a good leader, and being seen as the best. Oh and telling people what to do lol.
    B) Most of my introspection is done retroactively, as I'm often thinking on strategizing based on external factors. When I have these huge apathetic dips, that's what pushes me to introspect to light that spark.
    C) If I was forced into poverty - I'd either start cheating the system in a way to get me out of poverty or I would form connections with those in a similar situation to me. Alas, if I could find another way to win - the poverty probably wouldn't bother me too much. If I started to gain the reputation of a "loser" in that circumstance, that would either cause me to want to break out of it or perhaps more likely, find a way to turn lemons into lemonade and use that loser status to my advantage.

    About my variants, I could be wrong but Sp 3s seem to conduct themselves with a lot more integrity and "hard work" than I do. I'm very much willing to cut corners and "cheat" to be on top. I don't think I'm sx blind because even if I'm not always vocal about it there is that side of me that genuinely does value those intense connections with others. That being said, in terms of the 3 descriptions for each subtype I relate in this order: social 3 > sexual 3 > self pres 3. Not sure if that provides anymore insight
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    Let's see, from this alone, definitely 3. Your wing sometimes I can see both cause you're pretty self searching at heart despite not being too emotionally invested, but I wanna lean two at least based on here. Like it seems like your image is based less on authenticity for the most part and rather what looks good, plus being people oriented by delegating roles and just wanting to be helpful and useful. But yeah, you just scream 3. The adaptability, the wanting to the best, and this could be influenced by MBTI but 3s aren't too in touch with their feelings since they're a competency type and focus on goals before feelings. You show 9 disintegration by withdrawing and becoming apathetic when down. I'd say triple assertive, you're a assertive triad meme. 7 fix because of not wanting to miss out and not minding change and avoiding boredom by taking up a variety of things. 8 because you don't mind conflict much and power means a lot to you and not like wishy washiness it seems. So yeah, 378, but I think Kray asked some pretty good questions so I'll look at those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bismuth Blitz View Post
    Let's see, from this alone, definitely 3. Your wing sometimes I can see both cause you're pretty self searching at heart despite not being too emotionally invested, but I wanna lean two at least based on here. Like it seems like your image is based less on authenticity for the most part and rather what looks good, plus being people oriented by delegating roles and just wanting to be helpful and useful. But yeah, you just scream 3. The adaptability, the wanting to the best, and this could be influenced by MBTI but 3s aren't too in touch with their feelings since they're a competency type and focus on goals before feelings. You show 9 disintegration by withdrawing and becoming apathetic when down. I'd say triple assertive, you're a assertive triad meme. 7 fix because of not wanting to miss out and not minding change and avoiding boredom by taking up a variety of things. 8 because you don't mind conflict much and power means a lot to you and not like wishy washiness it seems. So yeah, 378, but I think Kray asked some pretty good questions so I'll look at those.
    That's true, I'm not too focused on authenticity. Goals do come before feelings, absolutely. That being said I have no issue faking emotions to get what I want.
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    About my variants, I could be wrong but Sp 3s seem to conduct themselves with a lot more integrity and "hard work" than I do. I'm very much willing to cut corners and "cheat" to be on top. I don't think I'm sx blind because even if I'm not always vocal about it there is that side of me that genuinely does value those intense connections with others. That being said, in terms of the 3 descriptions for each subtype I relate in this order: social 3 > sexual 3 > self pres 3. Not sure if that provides anymore insight
    According to countertype theory, that would be correct [I'm not sure if it holds for every supposed countertype though, I've seen sp3 descriptions that edge towards the typical cutting corners, the focus is just on the self). A 3 is always a 3 though, at average levels of health, I don't think integrity would be a key trait of any 3, even sp3. I was going by traditional variant definitions, as sp priorities the self (ie. needs, desires, goals etc) and, with 3, would be focused on material gain (ie. sp3 wants to be comfortable in it's resources, wealth, the car of their desires, etc etc). Sx blinds also desire intense connection with others and value that. Nonetheless, unless I see else wise, I'll trust your judgement on your IV. I think Soc definitely comes first, as it was the most obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigergreengrass View Post
    A) Power means being seen as a good leader, and being seen as the best. Oh and telling people what to do lol.
    B) Most of my introspection is done retroactively, as I'm often thinking on strategizing based on external factors. When I have these huge apathetic dips, that's what pushes me to introspect to light that spark.
    C) If I was forced into poverty - I'd either start cheating the system in a way to get me out of poverty or I would form connections with those in a similar situation to me. Alas, if I could find another way to win - the poverty probably wouldn't bother me too much. If I started to gain the reputation of a "loser" in that circumstance, that would either cause me to want to break out of it or perhaps more likely, find a way to turn lemons into lemonade and use that loser status to my advantage.
    Yeah, definitely soc dom 3. Your reasoning behind seeking power is still image based and you seem like a competency type due to your emphasis on calculation as well as adaptability. I'm leaning towards w2 at the moment, but I don't see much evidence for either.

    Sorry, some more questions just to see if I can gauge wings:

    D) How far are you willing to change yourself to reach your goals, where do you set the line if at all? Do you have an ideal self that you work towards becoming and if so what is the basis of the traits that you tend to acquire?
    E) What's more important, to be helpful and useful to others as well as yourself (ie. an integral part of whatever your working with) or to distinguish yourself as the best with an image that you idealize? The answer can both, but why?
    F) Do you focus more on what you do good or on what you could do better? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalDoubt View Post
    According to countertype theory, that would be correct [I'm not sure if it holds for every supposed countertype though, I've seen sp3 descriptions that edge towards the typical cutting corners, the focus is just on the self). A 3 is always a 3 though, at average levels of health, I don't think integrity would be a key trait of any 3, even sp3. I was going by traditional variant definitions, as sp priorities the self (ie. needs, desires, goals etc) and, with 3, would be focused on material gain (ie. sp3 wants to be comfortable in it's resources, wealth, the car of their desires, etc etc). Sx blinds also desire intense connection with others and value that. Nonetheless, unless I see else wise, I'll trust your judgement on your IV. I think Soc definitely comes first, as it was the most obvious.


    Yeah, definitely soc dom 3. Your reasoning behind seeking power is still image based and you seem like a competency type due to your emphasis on calculation as well as adaptability. I'm leaning towards w2 at the moment, but I don't see much evidence for either.

    Sorry, some more questions just to see if I can gauge wings:

    D) How far are you willing to change yourself to reach your goals, where do you set the line if at all? Do you have an ideal self that you work towards becoming and if so what is the basis of the traits that you tend to acquire?
    E) What's more important, to be helpful and useful to others as well as yourself (ie. an integral part of whatever your working with) or to distinguish yourself as the best with an image that you idealize? The answer can both, but why?
    F) Do you focus more on what you do good or on what you could do better? Why?
    D)In terms of reaching a goal, there is no line that I set where it's like "That's the farthest I'd go", or at least it hasn't come up in my life yet. In terms of an ideal self - I mean there's lot that I want to achieve but it would be hard for me to describe what I'd want my ideal self to be like.
    E) Both to an extent, but I'd lean more towards being seen as helpful as I think it is, if nothing else, more beneficial to perceived that way and there is part of me that genuinely does want to make societal changes that will benefit everyone.
    F) I look at both, but moreso what I could do better as I want to be constantly getting better at what I do whatever that may be. For example, I play a lot of video games to put my competitive streak to use and I'm always looking up what the "pros" are doing that I could use to get better at the game. Also another point in terms of video games that comes to mind actually - I like to learn the "exploits" or "glitches" in a game that I can use to my advantage and if I know I'm going to be playing a game for the first time I will try and look into tips/strategies for said game. I will utilise whatever I have to to win - whether that be in game exploits or engage in a little psychological "warfare" with my opponents to throw them off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergreengrass View Post
    D)In terms of reaching a goal, there is no line that I set where it's like "That's the farthest I'd go", or at least it hasn't come up in my life yet. In terms of an ideal self - I mean there's lot that I want to achieve but it would be hard for me to describe what I'd want my ideal self to be like.
    E) Both to an extent, but I'd lean more towards being seen as helpful as I think it is, if nothing else, more beneficial to perceived that way and there is part of me that genuinely does want to make societal changes that will benefit everyone.
    F) I look at both, but moreso what I could do better as I want to be constantly getting better at what I do whatever that may be. For example, I play a lot of video games to put my competitive streak to use and I'm always looking up what the "pros" are doing that I could use to get better at the game. Also another point in terms of video games that comes to mind actually - I like to learn the "exploits" or "glitches" in a game that I can use to my advantage and if I know I'm going to be playing a game for the first time I will try and look into tips/strategies for said game. I will utilise whatever I have to to win - whether that be in game exploits or engage in a little psychological "warfare" with my opponents to throw them off.
    I'd probably go with 3w2 over 3w4 then. The 2 wing tends to accentuate the adaptability that 3 already brings to the table. 4 has a closer connection to the self, while willing to mold and adapt can only go so far before they reach a point where they're too deviated from the self (or at least the idealized self). Being within the idealism triad, 3w4 tends to have a stronger idea of what it considers to be the ideal self. Considering you are Ni, I think this would be more prominent if you were a 4 wing. You've mentioned desiring deep connection and having a desire to be helpful and useful to others, as well as incite social change, which I think aligns pretty well with social 2. In terms of "vibe" (not that this is always the best indicator), but you come across more "fiery" and engaging then "icy" and cutthroat, which is typically what differentiates 3w2 and 3w4 on a personal basis, although since this tends to get obscured with, way 3w4 378 and 3w2 315, I didn't know if I could trust that initially, but you seem to follow that trend decently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalDoubt View Post
    I'd probably go with 3w2 over 3w4 then. The 2 wing tends to accentuate the adaptability that 3 already brings to the table. 4 has a closer connection to the self, while willing to mold and adapt can only go so far before they reach a point where they're too deviated from the self (or at least the idealized self). Being within the idealism triad, 3w4 tends to have a stronger idea of what it considers to be the ideal self. Considering you are Ni, I think this would be more prominent if you were a 4 wing. You've mentioned desiring deep connection and having a desire to be helpful and useful to others, as well as incite social change, which I think aligns pretty well with social 2. In terms of "vibe" (not that this is always the best indicator), but you come across more "fiery" and engaging then "icy" and cutthroat, which is typically what differentiates 3w2 and 3w4 on a personal basis, although since this tends to get obscured with, way 3w4 378 and 3w2 315, I didn't know if I could trust that initially, but you seem to follow that trend decently.
    That makes sense, fiery is true (I do admit, I'm very much into "femdom" lol - might be just coincidental but I notice a trend with sx types being into BDSM?). I can definitely be cutthroat in that I will absolutely make some ruthless "power plays" to get to my goal (however, being ENTJ I guess that is par for the course ahah). Would you say then that 3w2 so/sx is a fit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergreengrass View Post
    That makes sense, fiery is true (I do admit, I'm very much into "femdom" lol - might be just coincidental but I notice a trend with sx types being into BDSM?). I can definitely be cutthroat in that I will absolutely make some ruthless "power plays" to get to my goal (however, being ENTJ I guess that is par for the course ahah). Would you say then that 3w2 so/sx is a fit?
    Yeah, I think 3w2 so/sx would work well
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