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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    And there are plenty of tests and sites that basically say if you have deep emotions then you're a 4. That doesn't mean those sites are right. It's a reason that people may mistype themselves and overlook the specific 4sx descriptions that say they are jealous, angry, etc.
    I think is this is perfectly accurate about mistypes 4's, but I think Sx complicates things a bit more. ( Or does it?)

    I'm not well-versed in scionics so I can only make guesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuu View Post
    I think is this is perfectly accurate about mistypes 4's, but I think Sx complicates things a bit more. ( Or does it?)

    I'm not well-versed in scionics so I can only make guesses.
    Sx/sp can look 4ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    Sx/sp can look 4ish.
    Oh. Well then. That explains that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    It's the most common mistype, and in my opinion the most unappealing type to be. Jealous. Angry. Competitive. Insecure. Dramatic. Emotionally unstable. Hot and cold..... etc etc etc.

    So why do people so willingly type as sexual 4? Why would one want to claim all of those if they didn't have to?
    Enneagram test and bad descriptions assuming that feelers are 4s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Rodent View Post
    Enneagram test and bad descriptions assuming that feelers are 4s.
    I'm just going to stick with my original opinion that people don't actually understand what it means to be ennea-type 4. It's not something to want to be or cling to if you aren't.
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    It's the INFJ of the enneagram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    I'm just going to stick with my original opinion that people don't actually understand what it means to be ennea-type 4. It's not something to want to be or cling to if you aren't.
    Yeah, it's because of the test and many descriptions making it look like it's a typical feeler Enneatype, not a deep pathology which would be more typical for tertiary and inferior feeling. That's why most people don't understand it. I only realised that I'm not a 4 after literally a decade or something when I've read about motivations, early childhood experiences, etc.
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    Enneagram 4's are known for being Angry and Competitive? First time I'm hearing this... I thought those are enneagram 8, 6 or 3 traits.
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    You know the phenomenon where lots of typology profiles are generic and of good and relatable traits and thus it makes it easy to see one's self in it? And how the deadass opposite also happens, eg with dark triad stuff (psychopathy and co.)? I think that might be it. Folks prone to going 'I relate to the psychopathy checklist, am I a psychopath?' probably do the same with similar 'extreme negatives' in profiles in general. Or maybe some just do relate to it, either truly do relate, or out of a distorted self-image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charus View Post
    Enneagram 4's are known for being Angry and Competitive? First time I'm hearing this... I thought those are enneagram 8, 6 or 3 traits.
    Actually yes, specifically in subtype descriptions. Sx4s in particular often mistype as 8s because of the level of intensity to shame as it is expressed that is brought out specifically by sx. The attraction/passion/"hyperfocus" that sx tends to bring out as well makes 4 somewhat competitive in it's suffering and identity/uniqueness seeking, although it is notable that a 3 wing in particular would especially bring this sort of behavior out.

    Sp4 and so4 are less of those two things, though I can easily see 4 as a type being competitive with in respect to identity and suffering, more so in a comparative way though most likely.

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